OK I am the man

I’ll never succed in being first.

Little Saver, it’s a matter of perspective. For instance, in terms of quality comments, yours are always FIRSTrate.

http://www.chartoftheday.com/20090619.htm?Tdeflation my ass, sure DOW is being deflated by weakening dollar due to FED’s QE.

That’s mean and unwarranted. He is not ugly.

why people from China and Japan think buying dollars or dollar denominated asset can help them to build wealth is beyond me. they have themselves to blame for their destruction of wealth as dollar and USA weaken due to massive debt.

what the f do you mean “no offense”….who could not take offense to that…

Debt is the reason why Americans cannot deal with $4 gas. In USA there are more ways to end up in debt without even doing any shopping than in other industrialized countries.Debt pushes millions below poverty line

Four million Americans would fall below the federal poverty line if the interest they pay on their credit cards and other consumer debt were subtracted from their incomes, say two economics professors who call these people the “debt poor.”

Global Research has predicted 10 of the past 2 wars . . .These guys see American imperialism everywhere, which maybe isn’t surprising when US has over 740 foreign military bases. Nonetheless, take what they say with a pinch of salt and never invest on their hyperventilating warnings.

about closing tax loopholes…This sort of agreements would reduce peoples reasons for opening bank accounts in the ‘tax havens’.Interestingly it contributes to the same direction as below news…which could make people wonder whether there is some underlying push toward reducing banking diversification…Banks in Georgia, North Carolina, Kansas Closed by Regulatorshttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=amlPorxs3Als

Banks in Georgia, North Carolina and Kansas with total assets of $1.5 billion were closed yesterday, bringing this year’s tally of failures in the U.S. to 40 amid the highest unemployment in a quarter century.State regulators shut Southern Community bank of Fayetteville, Georgia and Cooperative Bank in Wilmington, North Carolina. The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency closed First National Bank of Anthony, Kansas…

How much tax evasion is occurring elsewhere? Does the Cayman Island Monetary Authority operate in a similar fashion as Switzerland? Interesting that at the peak of the housing bubble over 9k hedge funds holding $1.5 trillion were registered with the CIMA, yet we hear nothing about about what the U.S. or other countries are doing about averting potential systemic risk of concentrated financial activity located there.

but gas will ultimately push above $4 as global demand will always just go up.

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4584.shtmlThe ugly secret of Pentagon 9/11By Jerry MazzaOnline Journal Associate EditorApr 14, 2009, 00:12Severe VisibilityA film by Paul Cross9/11 films have become a genre, whether non-fiction or fictionalized accounts of the events and truth of that awful day. This latest, Severe Visibility, by actor, writer, director Paul Cross, is a riveting, Kafkaesque film which takes places largely in the matrix of the Pentagon, the belly of the beast on 9/11 and its aftermath. The small cast and independent production reminds me somewhat of The Reflecting Pool, with its relentless questioning of the official story.”…” …Whatever inner peace he had is destroyed by his conscience.To make matters worse, as he leaves the building he is questioned by a foreign journalist who challenges him when he repeats it was a 757. This only pours fuel on Kruter’s internal rage. And we are off and running through his world, suddenly gone dark, and haunted by his deepest fears, not to mention the relentless reporter, military inquirers, the incoming information from eyewitness reports on his car radio and home television that rebut the 757 perception.Suffice it to say, Kruter’s crisis of conscience is full-blown. And even the title, Severe Visibility, begins to sound awfully like, Severe Disability, a perhaps fatal case of PTSD…..”…

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14011.The Retreat of the Shadow Lenders, Why Deflation and not Inflation is the Order of the Dayby Ellen BrownWhile contrarians are screaming “hyperinflation!”, the money supply is actually shrinking. This is because most money today comes into existence as bank loans, and lending has shrunk substantially. That means the Fed needs to “monetize” debt just to fill the breach..On June 3, 2009, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke assured Congress, “The Federal Reserve will not monetize the debt.” Bill Bonner, writing in The Daily Reckoning, said it had a ring to it, like President Nixon’s “I am not a crook” and President Clinton’s “I did not have sex with that woman.” Monetizing the debt is precisely what the Fed will do, says Bonner, because it has no other choice. The Chinese are growing reluctant to lend, the taxpayers are tapped out, and the deficit is at unprecedented levels. “Even good people do bad things when they get in a jam. The Feds are already in pretty deep . . . and they’re going a lot deeper.”But Mr. Bernanke denied it. “Either cuts in spending or increases in taxes will be necessary to stabilize the fiscal situation,” he said.Both alternatives will be vigorously opposed, leaving Congress in the same deadlock California has been in for the last year. That makes the monetization option at least worth a look. What is wrong with it? Bill Bonner calls it “larceny on the grandest scale. Rather than honestly repaying what it has borrowed, a government merely prints up extra currency and uses it to pay its loans. The debt is ‘monetized’ . . . transformed into an increase in the money supply, thereby lowering the purchasing power of everybody’s savings.”So say the pundits, but in the past year the Fed has “monetized” over a trillion dollars worth of debt, yet the money supply is not expanding. As investment adviser Mark Sunshine observed in a June 12 blog:“[W]hile media talking heads were ranting about how the Fed was running their printing presses overtime to push up money supply, the facts were very different. M1 has actually declined since the middle of December, 2008. During the same six month period M2 has only risen by a little less than 3%.”The Fed is no longer reporting M3, the largest measure of the money supply, but according to Sunshine:“[W]e know that broader measures of money supply, like M3, haven’t materially risen in 2009.M3 followers can get a very rough idea of what M3 would have been, if it were published, by looking at the Federal Reserve quarterly Flow of Funds Accounts of the United States which was distributed yesterday. As it turns out, total net borrowing of the United States (private and public) dropped approximately $255 billion in the first quarter and other indicators of M3 fell or are about flat (on a net basis). . . . [T]his data supports [the] theory that the fall in private borrowing is more than offsetting the rise in government borrowing and therefore, at least for the time being, financing the deficit isn’t a problem.”All of this flap about the Fed driving the economy into hyperinflation because it is creating money on its books reflects a fundamental misconception about how our money and banking system actually works. In monetizing the government’s debt, the Fed is just doing what banks do every day. All money is created by banks on their books, as many authorities have attested. The Fed is just stepping in where the commercial banking system has failed. Except for coins, which are issued by the government and compose only about one ten-thousandth of the money supply (M3), our money today is nothing but bank credit (or debt); and we’re now laboring under a credit freeze, which means banks aren’t creating nearly as many loans as they used to. In February, the Bank for International Settlements published research showing that European banks could not settle their debts because of a $2 trillion shortage of U.S. dollars. Proposals for alternative reserve currencies followed. And in March, Blackstone Group CEO Stephen Schwarzman reported that up to 45% of the world’s wealth has been destroyed by the credit crisis. The missing “wealth” cannot be restored without putting the missing “money” back into the system, and that means getting the credit engine going again.Congress, the Treasury and the Federal Reserve have therefore been throwing money at the banks, trying to build up the banks’ capital so they can make enough loans to refuel the economy. At a capital requirement of 8%, $8 in capital can be leveraged into $100 in loans. But lending remains far below earlier levels, and it’s not because the banks are refusing to lend. The banks insist that they are making as many loans as they’re allowed to make with their existing deposit and capital bases. The real bottleneck is with the “shadow lenders” – those investors who, until late 2007, bought massive amounts of bank loans bundled up as “securities,” taking those loans off the banks’ books, making room for yet more loans to be originated out of the banks’ capital and deposit bases. In a Washington Times article titled “Banks Still Standing Amid Credit Rubble,” Patrice Hill wrote:“Before last fall’s financial crisis, banks provided only $8 trillion of the roughly $25 trillion in loans outstanding in the United States, while traditional bond markets provided another $7 trillion, according to the Federal Reserve. The largest share of the borrowed funds – $10 trillion – came from securitized loan markets that barely existed two decades ago. . . .“Many legislators in Congress complain that banks aren’t lending, and cite that as an excuse to vote against further bank bailout funds. . . . But Mr. Regalia [chief economist at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce] said these critics are wrong. ‘Banks are lending more, but 70 percent of the system isn’t there anymore,’ he said.”Seventy percent of the system isn’t there anymore because the traditional bond markets and securitized loan markets have dried up. Writes Hill:“Congress’ demand that banks fill in for collapsed securities markets poses a dilemma for the banks, not only because most do not have the capacity to ramp up to such large-scale lending quickly. The securitized loan markets provided an essential part of the machinery that enabled banks to lend in the first place. By selling most of their portfolios of mortgages, business and consumer loans to investors, banks in the past freed up money to make new loans. . . .“The market for pooled subprime loans, known as collateralized debt obligations (CDOs), collapsed at the end of 2007 and, by most accounts, will never come back. Because of the surging defaults on subprime and other exotic mortgages, investors have shied away from buying the loans, forcing banks and Wall Street firms to hold them on their books and take the losses.”The retreat of the shadow lenders has created a credit freeze globally; and when credit shrinks, the money supply shrinks with it. That means there is insufficient money to buy goods, so workers get laid off and factories get shut down, perpetuating a vicious spiral of economic collapse and depression. To reverse that cycle, credit needs to be restored; and when the banks can’t do it, the Fed needs to step in and start “monetizing” debt.So why don’t Fed officials just say that is what they are up to and put our minds at ease? Probably because they can’t without exposing the whole banking game. The curtain would be thrown back and we the people would know that our money system is sleight of hand. The banks never had all that money they supposedly lent to us. We’ve been paying interest for something they created out of thin air! Indeed, their credit money is less substantial than air, which at least has some molecules bouncing around in it. Bank credit exists only in cyberspace………

So why would nayone beleive anythign that comes out of these mouths. Add giethner, Obama, Summers and all the banksters and wall streeters to this list too…They tell people and the idiotic mianstream news people like CNBC what they want to hear and that all is well…Believe what you want, but this country and its economy and there fore its people are in Deep S..T. Debt, WAGE DESTRUCTION, NO JOBS, HIGH GAS will be here for many yearsI’ve always said that the Bernanke and Paulson lack credibility, accuracy, and quite possibly veracihttp://boombustblog.com/200906181011/I-ve-always-said-that-the-Bernanke-and-Paulson-lack-credibility-accuracy-and-quite-possibly-veraci.htmlThe guys at Austrian Filter have simply put my thoughts in a timeline. I don’t usually reproduce posts from other blogs, but this one is precious [annotation in red are my comments]:Zero Credibility from the Austrian FilterStraight from the horses’ mouths, a quick time line of Paulson’s & Bernanke’s economic assessments:February 28, 2007 – Dow Jones @ 12,268March 13th, 2007 – Henry Paulson: “the fallout in subprime mortgages is “going to be painful to some lenders, but it is largely contained.” A total lack of understanding of what caused this problem. It was never subprime, it was a dearth of underwritng prudence, which means that the losses will appear everywhere a loan was underwritten (or not underwritten). That is any loan, anywhere. A lot of loans in a lot of places. I think we are figuring this out by now, but my blog readers knew this back in 2007, and profited from it. See the Asset Sercuritization Crisis links at the bottom of the post.March 28th, 2007 – Ben Bernanke: “At this juncture . . . the impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime markets seems likely to be contained,” Same problem as aboveMarch 30, 2007 – Dow Jones @ 12,354April 20th, 2007 – Paulson: “I don’t see (subprime mortgage market troubles) imposing a serious problem. I think it’s going to be largely contained.” , “All the signs I look at” show “the housing market is at or near the bottom,” Same problem as aboveApril 30, 2007 – Dow Jones @ 13,063May 17th, 2007 – Bernanke: “While rising delinquencies and foreclosures will continue to weigh heavily on the housing market this year, it will not cripple the U.S.” Same problem as aboveMay 31, 2007 – Dow Jones @ 13,627June 20th, 2007 – Bernanke: (the subprime fallout) “will not affect the economy overall.” Same problem as aboveJuly 12th, 2007 – Paulson: “This is far and away the strongest global economy I’ve seen in my business lifetime.” This goes to show you the quality of Paulson’s business lifetime!August 1st, 2007 – Paulson: “I see the underlying economy as being very healthy,” He was probably just lying!October 15th, 2007 – Bernanke: “It is not the responsibility of the Federal Reserve – nor would it be appropriate – to protect lenders and investors from the consequences of their financial decisions.” He is right. To be honest, he was probably hamstrung between a rock and a hard place, but it really looks bad to have this thrown in your face in public, doesn’t it???December 31, 2007 – Dow Jones @ 13,265January 31, 2008 – Dow Jones @ 12,650February 14th, 2008 – Paulson: (the economy) “is fundamentally strong, diverse and resilient.” Well, if you look at it from a conceptual perspective…February 28th, 2008 – Paulson: “I’m seeing a series of ideas suggested involving major government intervention in the housing market, and these things are usually presented or sold as a way of helping homeowners stay in their homes. Then when you look at them more carefully what they really amount to is a bailout for financial institutions or Wall Street.” Right, everything is going according to plan…February 29th, 2008 – Bernanke: “I expect there will be some failures. I don’t anticipate any serious problems of that sort among the large internationally active banks that make up a very substantial part of our banking system.” Ignorance right here. He really should have been reading my blog. I told him Bear Stearns was going to fail and Lehman had issues the month before – Is this the Breaking of the Bear? Sunday, 27 January 2008March 16th, 2008 – Paulson: “We’ve got strong financial institutions . . . Our markets are the envy of the world. They’re resilient, they’re…innovative, they’re flexible. I think we move very quickly to address situations in this country, and, as I said, our financial institutions are strong.”March 18th, 2008 – Bear Stearns Bailout Announced – I told you so, right on schedule…May 7, 2008 – Paulson: ‘The worst is likely to be behind us,” Need I comment???May 16th, 2008 – Paulson: “In my judgment, we are closer to the end of the market turmoil than the beginning,” he said. That’s what anybody who relies on his judgement espoused in public deserves. I know a few people who are enamored with Fed and Treasury pronouncements… What a shame.May 30, 2008 – Dow Jones @ 12,638June 9th, 2008 – Bernanke: Despite a recent spike in the nation’s unemployment rate, the danger that the economy has fallen into a “substantial downturn” appears to have waned, Okay, if you say so…July 16th, 2008 – Bernanke: (Freddie and Fannie) “…will make it through the storm”, “… in no danger of failing.”,”…adequately capitalized” The ultimate contrarian indicator…July 20th, 2008 – Paulson: “it’s a safe banking system, a sound banking system. Our regulators are on top of it. This is a very manageable situation.” And to think, some people dismiss me because I had bad quarter….July 31, 2008 – Dow Jones @ 11,378August 10th, 2008 – Paulson: “We have no plans to insert money into either of those two institutions.” (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) That reminds me of the joke where the bill collector calls and asks when he can expect payment. The guy on the other end of the phone says, “You can EXPECT payment whenever you damn well please!”September 8th, 2008 – Fannie and Freddie nationalized. The taxpayer is on the hook for an estimated 1 – 1.5 trillion dollars. Over 5 trillion is added to the nation’s balance sheet. Whoa!September 16th, 2008 – $85 Billion AIG Bailout “Loan” Whoa! again.September 19th, 2008 – $700 Billion Bailout Plan Announced Whoa! cubed…September 19th, 2008 – Paulson: “We’re talking hundreds of billions of dollars – this needs to be big enough to make a real difference and get at the heart of the problem,” he said. “This is the way we stabilize the system.” The mathematically challenged Treasury Secretary and ex-Goldman CEO, or does he think we are mathematially challenged?September 19th, 2008 – Bernanke: “most severe financial crisis” in the post-World War II era. Investment banks are seeing “tremendous runs on their cash,” Bernanke said. “Without action, they will fail soon.” There it goes. Should we expect a similar reversal on the Green Shoots Theorem as well?September 21st, 2008 – Paulson: “The credit markets are still very fragile right now and frozen”, “We need to deal with this and deal with it quickly.”, “The financial security of all Americans … depends on our ability to restore our financial institutions to a sound footing.” I really shouldn’t comment any further…September 23rd, 2008 – Paulson: “We must [enact a program quickly] in order to avoid a continuing series of financial institution failures and frozen credit markets that threaten American families’ financial well-being, the viability of businesses, both small and large, and the very health of our economy,” Whoa! to the fourth degreeSeptember 23rd, 2008 – Bernanke: “My interest is solely for the strength and recovery of the U.S. economy,” Why doesn’t the Fed and the Treasury spend some of that TARP money to spring for a subscription to my blog?October 31, 2008 – Dow Jones @ 9,337March 31, 2009 – Dow Jones @ 7,609The authors of this very interesting blog post conclude: If Bernanke and Paulson were doctors, and our economy was the patient, they would be in jail for malpractice. If they were graded for their performance in public, they would have failed, if they had a private sector job, they would have been fired. If they were attached to a lie detector with 500 volt biofeedback, they would have been electrocuted!

http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Financial_Tsunami/Geithner_Secret/geithner_secret.html.Geithner’s Dirty Little SecretBy F. William Engdahl, 30 March 2009US Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has unveiled his long-awaited plan to put the US banking system back in order. In doing so, he has refused to tell the ‘dirty little secret’ of the present financial crisis. By refusing to do so, he is trying to save de facto bankrupt US banks that threaten to bring the entire global system down in a new more devastating phase of wealth destruction.The Geithner Plan, his so-called Public-Private Partnership Investment Program or PPPIP, as we have noted previously(In German: Obamas Rettungsplan für die Banken: keine Lösung, sondern legaler Diebstahl), is designed not to restore a healthy lending system which would funnel credit to business and consumers. Rather it is yet another intricate scheme to pour even more hundreds of billions directly to the leading banks and Wall Street firms responsible for the current mess in world credit markets without demanding they change their business model. Yet, one might say, won’t this eventually help the problem by getting the banks back to health?Not the way the Obama Administration is proceeding. In defending his plan on US TV recently, Geithner, a protégé of Henry Kissinger who previously was President of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, argued that his intent was ‘not to sustain weak banks at the expense of strong.’ Yet this is precisely what the PPPIP does. The weak banks are the five largest banks in the system.The ‘dirty little secret’ which Geithner is going to great degrees to obscure from the public is very simple. There are only at most perhaps five US banks which are the source of the toxic poison that is causing such dislocation in the world financial system. What Geithner is desperately trying to protect is that reality. The heart of the present problem and the reason ordinary loan losses as in prior bank crises are not the problem, is a variety of exotic financial derivatives, most especially so-called Credit Default Swaps.In 2000 the Clinton Administration then-Treasury Secretary was a man named Larry Summers. Summers had just been promoted from No. 2 under Wall Street Goldman Sachs banker Robert Rubin to be No. 1 when Rubin left Washington to take up the post of Vice Chairman of Citigroup. As I describe in detail in my new book, Power of Money: The Rise and Fall of the American Century, to be released this summer, Summers convinced President Bill Clinton to sign several Republican bills into law which opened the floodgates for banks to abuse their powers. The fact that the Wall Street big banks spent some $5 billion in lobbying for these changes after 1998 was likely not lost on Clinton……..

But WHY is this happening?It couldn’t be because we have surpassed the point where servicing all the debts has become impossible.Because so much of the debt was based upon past consumption and has no ability to repay itself and just became a huge dead weight that grew and grew until it could no longer be drug.Income from all sources is inadequate to pay ongoing daily expenses and still service past debt. There is only one direction this can go until enough of the debt burden has been released. Roubini talks about trading debt for equity but that doesn’t work for the average citizen as they have no equity left. All they have are future incomes and those are under pressure from so many directions including but no way limited by income restraints from layoffs, high energy costs, insurance, health care and high taxes and even extremely low interest rates plus actual harm for saving (insane IMO).The people running things are to insulated from the reality of every day life facing most people. They make decisions that make their lives better because they think that will make others better, yet they are the few. The others are not benefiting from the government policies. The majority of us are being harmed by them. What does all this high finance produce in of itself? Nothing! It is just a tax on real productive activities and yet is had grown to 40% of the economy. How insane is that?As for green shoots… When you water and fertilize an unplanted field, you will get green shoots.. The trouble is that they are just weeds and do not provide any useful benefit to society. All they have done is use up the limited water and fertilizer and manpower and have no benefit to anyone but those providing the debt to facilitate this stupid activity… Unless you like to deal with weeds.. Which is what the government likes doing.. It makes politician feel good. They are doing something and it looks good at first.. In the end they will just create some new crisis to divert the public attention and move on to appear to solve that. Such a show.

How sad that so many of you late comers offer so little of any real value to those of us who have been here a while.If you don’t have anything to add that will help us gain a better understanding of the current economic situation, just shut the f up.

This lift from Boon Bust Blog was posted in a previous thread with references…

b,but..how can demand evaporate when we have a mountain ofexisting debt that is in need, desperate, of thosedollars to pay off past, existing and projectedspending. bankruptcies? followed by repatriatednotes?

EVERYONE THAT IS IN DEBT HOPES FOR INFLATION, WHILE THOSE OUT OF DEBT AND SAVING MONEY CAN BENEFIT FROM DEFLATIONThe media will never admit it, but we’re in deflation right now, COLA is -3.2% for federal retirees to date.But the federal deficit will spike inflation again? See to believe. To date, that’s just words with actuals contradicting it.Now, if we also calculated the unemployment rate the same way they did during the Great Depression [it was a simple survey extrapolated over the entire nation, which of course included those unable to enter the workforce, severely underemployed and giveups]. We’d never do that, unemployment would be like 20-25% doing it honestly.Now, let’s summ up the anomalies: we have current deflation and Great Depression sized unemployment….doesn’t that mean we’re in a depression right now?Oil prices at $147 a barrel should have produced like $6.50/gal gas, assuming $70 a barrel oil produces like $3/gal gas today. Obama needs to investigate why we’re currently getting gouged at the pump, doesn’t he(?)…..but does he want to? It would make the deflation even worse…LOLEven Democrats make good Republicans sometimes.

This may change your mind!http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/06/flow-of-funds-report-offers-hard.htmlhlowe

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/06/nitwits-in-congress-propose-tapping-oil.htmlmoronic democrats running the congress

What was also interesting to hear about – in one news article some time ago – was about that some US states also provide similar tax ‘evasion’ services as Switzerland. This at least according to a Swiss official who was commenting on the matter.Yes I am sure that Switzerland is not unique in providing that service. Besides I am sure they did not start it as a service to help people to evade taxes but as a service to protect peoples identity.

…and with the US government keeping on closingmany smaller banks (instead of bailing them out)they might eventually create a monopoly situationwith only a handful banks present.

I’d do him

Thanks… yes its a looming big problem and not just for California…

More Power to The Fed to Regulate our Economy? They will mess up more!The best way to prevent more bubble and economic meltdown in the future is not by more regulations or power to The Fed, but by the followings:1) Fire incompetent people of regulatory agencies who failed to do their job2) Never allow “Moral Hazard”, which means no bailout in any circumstance3) Criminalize and prosecute the past offenders who played games in Wall Street (bankers, insurers, and all others)4) Terminate lobbyist peddling in Congress and Government OfficesEven we employ these measures now, I think it is already too late to repair this broken economic system. What a sad system we have!!

ObamaNation: Iran to ‘stop all violent and unjust actions’

The Iranian government must understand that the world is watching. We mourn each and every innocent life that is lost. We call on the Iranian government to stop all violent and unjust actions against its own people. The universal rights to assembly and free speech must be respected, and the United States stands with all who seek to exercise those rights.As I said in Cairo, suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away. The Iranian people will ultimately judge the actions of their own government. If the Iranian government seeks the respect of the international community, it must respect the dignity of its own people and govern through consent, not coercion.Martin Luther King once said – “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” I believe that. The international community believes that. And right now, we are bearing witness to the Iranian peoples’ belief in that truth, and we will continue to bear witness.

What kind of arrogant, naive, Savior complex is it that motivates such demands of a foreign power?

HI BRETTI’m not saying I agree with the way the COLA calculation eliminates the current deflation of housing costs….or inflation in the past.I think our unemployment rate, COLA and GDP [excludes the cost of fixing our destroyed infrastructure] statistics are nothing but fairy tales and wild guesses. Of course they are good for tracking degradation deltas in the trends. They certainly are poor math models for accurately comparing our current dilemma to history book Great Depression.

The U.S. government, as do the governments of all other countries in the world, expresses official positions on the actions of other nation states, whether domestic or foreign. Our criticism of the Iranian regime’s current handling of its election dispute is nothing out of the ordinary, and appears to be justified. Why the polarizing hyperbole? Do you just look for things to hate about the President, Morbid?SWK

are we doing any of what you suggested? NO, end of discussion, we will be screwed now and future.