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According to press reports the IMF may allegedly be increasing its estimate of global bank losses to $4 trillion, a figure consistent with estimates by a variety of independent bank analysts

A year ago this author predicted that losses by US financial institutions would be at least $1 trillion and possibly as high as $2 trillion. At that time the consensus such estimates as being grossly exaggerated as the naïve optimists had in mind about $200 billion of expected subprime mortgage losses. But, as was pointed out then in this forum, losses would rapidly mount well beyond subprime mortgages as the US and global economy would spin into a most severe financial crisis and an ugly recession. It was then argued that we would then see rising losses on subprime, near prime and prime mortgages; commercial real estate; credit cards, auto loans, student loans; industrial and commercial loans; corporate bonds; sovereign bonds and state and local government bonds; and massive losses on all of the assets (CDOs, CLOs, ABS, and the entire alphabet of credit derivatives) that had securitized such loans. Then, in a matter of months the IMF came with an estimate of $945 billion of losses that was revised in mid year to $1.4 trillion and to $2.2 trillion by the beginning of 2009. And by the end of 2008 write-downs by US banks had already passed the $1 trillion mark (our initial floor estimate of losses).

But if you think that $2.2 trillion was already a huge figure, the RGE Monitor new estimate in January 2009 of peak credit losses (available in a paper for our RGE clients) suggested that total losses on loans made by U.S. financial firms and the fall in the market value of the assets they are holding would be at their peak about $3.6 trillion ($1.6 trillion for loans and $2 trillion for securities). The U.S. banks and broker dealers are exposed to half of this figure, or $1.8 trillion; the rest is borne by other financial institutions in the US and abroad. The capital backing the banks’ assets was last fall only $1.4 trillion, leaving the U.S. banking system some $400 billion in the hole, or close to zero even after the government and private sector recapitalization of such banks and after banks’ provisioning for losses. Thus, another $1.4 trillion would be needed to bring back the capital of banks to the level they had before the crisis; and such massive additional recapitalization is needed to resolve the credit crunch and restore lending to the private sector.

What are the implications of these figures? Let me explain.

These figures suggest that the US banking system is effectively near insolvent in the aggregate. Of course this does not mean that all or most institutions are insolvent but that many of them will be – at the peak – with a massive capital shortfall. Of course time can heal many wounds and with borrowing costs for banks cost to zero and net interest margin rising some banks may be able to rebuild capital over time in spite of severe losses from marking down the value of loans and securities. But some institutions are so severely damaged that even rising interest margins, forbearance and time will not be enough to let them recover their capital losses; i.e. some – even large – institutions may be insolvent under most likely states of the world.

Note that the difference between the RGE estimate of $3.6 trillion of losses and the IMF estimate of $2.2 trillion – in spite of taking the same analytical approach – was that the IMF was looking at current charge-off/delinquency rates while RGE made estimate of peak losses based on a sensible scenario about the US economy (growth, home price declines, unemployment rate).

But it has now reported in the press that the IMF will soon publish new revised estimates of credit losses of $4 trillion; of this estimate $3.1 trillion is losses on loans and assets originated by US financial institutions while $0.9 trillion are losses by  European and Asian institutions. Since the RGE estimate is for loans and securities originated by US institution the appropriate comparison is between the $3.6 trillion estimate by RGE and the $3.1 trillion of the IMF. So at this point the IMF estimates and those of RGE are converging towards a very similar figure. RGE has not made yet an estimate of losses on loans and securities issued by European and Asian institutions but we estimated (based on Fed and IMF estimates) that about 40 to 50% of the losses on securities are borne by non-US investors. Thus, about $1 trillion of the US originated securities losses are suffered by non-US institutions because of this international credit risk transfer. If you then add this $1 trillion to the IMF alleged estimate of $0.9 trillion losses on loans and securities originated by Europe and Asia total losses for these European and Asian institutions would be $1.9 trillion that is not very different from our estimate of $2.6 trillion of losses ($3.6 trillion minus $1 trillion) borne by US investors and financial institutions.

One critique of the RGE and IMF estimates of credit losses is that the estimates of losses on securities are based on current mark to market values of such securities. If current prices are depressed because of a large illiquidity premium then long term losses will be smaller.  While this argument is partially valid it does not significantly affect the overall estimate of losses. Suppose – to be very very generous to the “liquidity discount” critique – that such illiquidity premium is 30%. Then, our estimate of securities losses of $2 trillion needs to be revised downward to $1.4 trillion. Then, our estimate of total credit losses goes down from $3.6 trillion to $3.0 trillion, a figure very close to the most recent alleged IMF estimate.

It should also be noted that the RGE figure may be an underestimate – rather than an overestimate – of peak losses. Because of the lack of precise data we have not included losses on two important categories of assets, municipal bonds and sovereign bonds of emerging market economies. Given the likely sharp increase in default rates by state/local government (in 1991 at the time of the last real estate-driven recession muni bonds were trading like junk bonds) and given that sovereign spread are now very high losses on these two categories of assets are likely to be very significant.  Also, at the time of our January 2009 estimates we assumed that the US unemployment rate would peak in 2010 only to 10% (an estimate now shared by the OECD for the US and most advanced economies), But there are now signs that the unemployment rate will peak closer to 11% if not higher (and the current unemployment rate is already above 15% if you include partially-employed workers and discouraged workers who left the labor force).

The RGE and IMF estimates of very large credit losses are consistent with the analysis of most independent analysts of the banking system, respected and authoritative figures such as Meredith Whitney (recent victim of cheap and unwarranted shots against her by a WSJ commentator), Chris Whalen and Mike Mayo.

As recently reported by Bloomberg Mike Mayo predicts that US loan losses may exceed Great Depression levels:

CLSA analyst Mike Mayo assigned an “underweight” rating to U.S. banks, saying loan losses may exceed Great Depression levels and the government may be forced to take over large lenders.

Financial shares and major U.S. stock indexes dropped after Mayo advised clients to sell banks including Winston-Salem, North Carolina-based BB&T Corp. and Cincinnati’s Fifth Third Bancorp. Mayo said in a report today that he assigned “underperform” ratings to Bank of America Corp. and JPMorgan Chase & Co., the two biggest U.S. banks by assets.

“While certain mortgage problems are farther along, other areas are likely to accelerate, reflecting a rolling recession by asset class,” said Mayo, who joined CLSA from Deutsche Bank AG last month. “New government actions might not help as much as expected, especially given that loans have been marked down to only 98 cents on the dollar, on average.”

The 46-year-old Mayo gained recognition in 1999 at Credit Suisse AG for correctly taking a bearish stance on bank stocks when other analysts remained bullish. After being fired from Credit Suisse, he joined Prudential Equity Group in 2001, where he earned a reputation for criticizing investors and companies who tried to curb objective analysis. At Deutsche, Mayo had “sell” or “hold” ratings on all 18 companies he covered, according to data compiled by Bloomberg…

Nationalization of banks remains a possibility because government policy remains unclear, Mayo said on a conference call after releasing his report.

Existing government efforts aimed at boosting bank capital don’t “preclude regulators from taking harsher action,” Mayo said. “I don’t want to be a partner with the government in investing in bank stocks.”

Mayo said he expects loan losses to increase to 3.5 percent, and as high as 5.5 percent in a stress scenario, by the end of 2010. The highest level of loan losses in the Great Depression was 3.4 percent in 1934, according to the report. Mayo’s estimate matches the prediction he made on March 10 for Frankfurt-based Deutsche Bank.

Mortgage Losses

Mortgage-related losses are about halfway to their peak, while credit-card and consumer losses are only a third of the way to their expected highest levels, according to Mayo, who declined to comment beyond the report. CLSA is an affiliate of New York-based Calyon Securities.

The nation’s largest banks may be transitioning from a financial crisis marked by writedowns of capital to an economic crisis featuring large loan losses, Mayo wrote. The U.S. government cannot provide much relief because its actions will lead to either banks having to raise new capital or toxic assets remaining on banks’ balance sheets, Mayo wrote.

Mayo said solutions to the banking crisis will take time, as the increase in risk happened over a decade or more.

CLSA’s underperform rating reflects the expectation that the stock will underperform the local market by 0 to 10 percent, while a sell rating expects it to fare worse by more than 10 percent, according to the report.

Seven Deadly Sins

Mayo said banks engaged in “seven deadly sins”: greedy loan growth, gluttony of real estate, lust for high yields, sloth-like risk management, pride of low capital, envy of exotic fees, and anger of regulators. Mayo’s “underweight” rating applies to the entire sector.  

Meredith Whitney also remains very bearish on US banks:

Meredith Whitney, who left Oppenheimer & Co. in February to found Meredith Whitney Advisory Group LLC, said in a Forbes interview that banks will continue to write down their mortgage assets as home prices decline further than lenders expected. Home prices are not done falling and will ultimately drop 50 percent from their peak, Whitney said today in a CNBC interview.

The unemployment rate also has exceeded banks’ projections and could lead to further loan losses, Whitney told Forbes. Banks “by and large” will show profits in the first quarter before provisions for loan losses, Whitney said on CNBC.

Also, as reported by Forbes:

In a report to clients of the Meredith Whitney Advisory Group, the closely followed bank stock analyst reiterated her bearish position on the financial sector and the economy in general. Though some are forecasting a recovery in late 2009 or 2010, Whitney believes that banks have still not properly reserved against greater than expected losses in home prices. Her earnings forecasts for 2009 and 2010 are almost across the board lower than consensus.

In Whitney’s narrative financial firms will relive the worst struggles of 2008 because housing prices in the major markets will fall much further than expected. Bank of America, HSBC and even the resilient JP Morgan Chase will have to increase reserves as real estate losses mount unabated. Home price expectations for the banking industry play a critical role in their entire accrual accounting methodology.

“When a bank carries both a loan and a loss reserve against such a loan on its balance sheet, where that bank expects home prices to bottom is a key assumption much like unemployment or interest rates,” Whitney warns.

Her report, titled, “The Agony of Incrementalism” forecasts home prices to fall by more than 66.0% of current bank assumptions in the 10-City Case-Shiller Index.

“Increased liquidity drove home prices higher,” Whitney explained, “and contracting liquidity will drive home prices lower.” She pointed out that 70.0% of homeowners need leverage to buy and stay in their homes, therefore an overall declining mortgage market will put pressure on prices.

As home prices fall and as unemployment rises, banks will have to retain earnings to fund greater reserve funds as part of a cycle that Whitney says has “no end in sight as both forecasts continue to rise quicker than expectations.” It’s a “never ending game of catch up,” she says because the banks have been underestimating losses ever since the credit crisis began a year and a half ago. The average bank thinks the total decline in housing prices was going to be 30% at the end of the first quarter. Now, says Whitney, they’re thinking more like 37% — still behind reality.

Similarly, Chris Whalen of Institutional Risk Analytics has recently pointed out that economic losses for US banks could be as high as $4 trillion:

Remember that the maximum probably loss (“MPL”) shown in The IRA Bank Monitor for the top US banks with assets above $10 billion, also known as Economic Capital, is a cash number representing the amount of incremental capital the banks may require to absorb the losses from a 3-4 standard deviation economic slump, such as the one we have today. If you include the subsidy required for the GSEs and AIG, the US Treasury could face a collective funding requirement of $4 trillion through the cycle. Do Ben Bernanke and Tim Geithner really believe that they can sell such a program to the Congress? To put it in perspective, the $250 billion in the Obama Budget for additional TARP funds will not quite cover Citigroup (NYSE:C).

Finally, given these negative assessments of the prospects for US banks by independent analysts and given forecasts of credit losses by the IMF that are now allegedly close to the ones of RGE what should we make of the recent sharp rally of banks and financial stocks; of the recent statements by banks such as Bank of America and Citi and other banks that they are making profits in Q1 (before provisioning); of the better than expected earnings results of Wells Fargo that led to another stock market rally on Thursday; and of the recent press reports suggesting that most if not all banks will pass the stress test?

The detailed answers to those questions will be provided in my next blog in the next few days. In brief:  banks are benefitting from close to zero borrowing costs; they are benefitting from a massive transfer of wealth from savers to borrowers given a dozen different government bailout and subsidy programs for the financial system; they are not properly provisioning/reserving for massive future loan losses; they are not properly marking down current losses from loans in delinquency; they are using the recent changes by FASB to mark to market to inflate the value of many assets; they are using a number of accounting tricks to minimize reported losses and maximize reported earnings; the Treasury is using a stress scenario for the stress tests that is not a true stress scenario but rather a benchmark of what the economy is likely to look like in 2009 and 2010; a true stress scenario would have considered a much more serious economic downturn..

266 Responses to “According to press reports the IMF may allegedly be increasing its estimate of global bank losses to $4 trillion, a figure consistent with estimates by a variety of independent bank analysts”

HayesApril 10th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

via NCA Game of Credit Cost Smoke and Mirrors at Wells Fargo?http://www.housingwire.com/2009/04/09/credit-cost-smoke-at-mirrors-at-wells-fargo/

HayesApril 10th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

This is big news (not saying good, just big)Goldman mulls big equity offering: reportInvestment bank may use the money to repay government investmenthttp://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/goldman-mulls-multibillion-dollar-equity-offering/story.aspx?guid={D2743591-A843-4934-880C-E6D5B970D232}&dist=msr_1

HayesApril 10th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

and this from ReutersWall St Week Ahead: Bank results to dictate rally’s fatehttp://uk.reuters.com/article/marketsNewsUS/idUKN0930505820090409Looks to me like Plan B or is that Plan A has been set in motion – beginning with the Wells Fargo announcment – The news wires and MSM are pumping out stories faster than you read/listen to that the turn has been made in the economy.and moreObama sees signs of economic progressApril 10″WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama said on Friday that he was seeing “glimmers of hope” across the recession-hit U.S. economy but that it still remained under severe strain.”http://uk.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUKTRE5391VJ20090410

GuestApril 10th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

Check this out… PBS interview (Moyer) of the regulator who handled the savings and loan crisis, explaining the rip off of the American people by the banks, mortgage brokers, government, etc…. unbelievable and incredibly depressing..http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04032009/transcript1.html. Dr. Roubini, you are one of the very few economists who are speaking the truth.. The press is amazingly willing to avoid it at all costs… I have been following you for several years now… Please keep it up… there are many honest americans who are relying on you to try to avoid the wall street and government swindlers… you are almost all we have… thank you!!! BTW, Cramer is a buffoon…

GuestApril 10th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

Good for you, Nouriel. You are the economic lens that brings into focus a clear perspective and analysis of this nation’s economy. In the face of the “happy days are here again” crowd, those who think wishful thinking can trump reality, it is comforting to know that someone has his hand on the sword of truth. Those of us who seek a more dependable map from which to invest for our futures, thank you.

AnonymousApril 10th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

Maybe something like this will happen to GS:SMFG fails to trade after stock-issue plan spooks investorshttp://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/smfg-fails-trade-after-stock-issue/story.aspx?guid=%7BCA52CB7C%2DF9A7%2D405C%2DB2EA%2D7718DFDEA442%7D&dist=morenews_ts

ZingApril 10th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

I just don’t think this rally is sustainable, as much as I was tempted to jump back in this week (I’ve been in 90% cash for a couple years now). As I sit here absorbing last week’s news, I’m concluding that we bound to test the lows once more after some horrible news comes out that will remind us that things are still getting worse, and will spook this rally as being a false start. Here’s a supporting view from Comstock, who tend to be very insightful like Nouriel…Too Soon to Get BullishApril 09, 2009We continue to view the current strength as a classic bear market rally typical of prior periods. Even the 1929-1932 market that declined 89% had at least five strong counter-trend rallies. The rally has taken place directly off a March 9 S&P 500 low of 666 without the retest that typically occurs at major bottoms. At the very least a retest of that low is a high probability, and it could very well fail.Furthermore the fundamental assumptions underlying the rally are somewhat suspect. The Wells Fargo earnings report is not likely to be typical of most banks, and does not indicate a recovering economy. The recent rapid rate of decline in the economy was unsustainable, and there are numerous signs that it is no longer falling off a cliff. The economy is still falling, albeit at a slower pace, but there are no signs of an imminent recovery. Major problems are still ahead including a continuing rise in home mortgage foreclosures, credit card delinquencies and a rapidly deteriorating commercial real estate market. And let’s not forget that debt deleveraging has barely gotten underway, and has a long way to go. As for valuation, the 2009 estimate for reported (GAAP) earnings for the S&P 500 is only $35 (and probably headed lower), resulting in a P/E ratio of 24 at today’s closing price.All in all, we think this rally will soon run out of steam and retest the prior low with a good chance of even lowerhttp://www.comstockfunds.com/screenprint.aspx?newsletterid=1451

richinarApril 10th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

Tornados have a strange way of bringing things into perspective. It is a good day to be alive. Best to all.

GuestApril 10th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

Doug Kass (the former bear turned bull) has been exalted to the world’s highest pedestal because of his recent “generational bottom” or “Roubini Bottom” call in early March. Those that listened to him and bought stock and/or call options have made fortunes literally in a period of one month (BAC and C are up 200%). Regardless of whether his bottom call was just another bear market rally or an actual “generational bottom” call, his call was definitely a great call because we have seen the largest “V” shaped percentage move in the stock markets since the 1930′s. Those that continued to short in March have had their heads handed to them on a platter. I fear that if the market fails to break new lows professor Roubini will have to carry a monkey on his back all the way to his grave. But if the market does indeed hit new lows Roubini will reclaim his “rock star status” once again. And if it does indeed happen that the market hits new lows will professor Roubini be hailed for pounding the table and actually calling for people to buy at the correct time? Or will he be calling for new lows? (only to miss “the real rally”)Doug Kass is really a win/win no matter what happens because he called the bottom of one of the greatest rallies in the history of the markets. He said “possibly” a generational low in the markets. What is at stake here is whether this just another bear market rally or not. We shall see…….

ZingApril 10th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

It will be interesting to see. I’m putting my money on Nouriel and Comstock’s view above. The market P/E is too high, and I believe earnings will surprise on the downside.

CLakeApril 10th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

The question is, Prof. Roubini, how are these $4 trillion of losses going to be distributed ?It does look like the American government has colluded with the banking and financial community in order to ensure that these losses are not carried only by the banks and shadow banks shareholders and debtholders, but are spread around to the entire American population via taxes and possibly worldwide dollar holders via depreciation of the currency.The idea seems to be that a lot of this bad debt be transferred from these private institutions to the public and either end up be monetized by the fed or paid by the tax payer in the future, ie “socialization of the losses”.In the end, what proportion of these $4 trillion will be paid by the banks shareholders and debtholders ? That is, what will be the market capitalization of the banks ? If all were born by them, they would be insolvent, but it seems a big chunk is going to end up being paid by the American people.So, how many trillions is going to end up being paid by the tax payer, or by inflation reduction ?Is there a liimit, like if they were told they have to bail out the banks for $3 trillion, beyond which Americans would revolt ?Shareholders should have been wiped out. Debtholders should have taken a mega haircut and carried the majority of these losses. Our government decided otherwise, they thought it would be “good for the people” if thye were to share the losses. That was both the Republicans and the Democrats by the way. Paulson, Bush, Bernanke, Geithner, Obama, Summers : they’re equally from both sides, it doesn’t matter, both parties have been paid so much in the past by the same banking lobby, it “owns” them… They managed to confuse the issue sufficiently well to the American people and explain that these institutions were “too big to fail”, and that nationalization was not possible in America. No, The USA couldn’t do what Sweden did.Obama just had to say that he was not in favour of nationalization and that was it, no further argument given. Bail out yes, but no nationalization. Which meant the tax payer was going to get ripped off. By far the most influential political lobby existing in America, the banking and financial lobby, had accomplished its main objective : to avoid nationalization and spread the losses to the tax payer.Only nationalization would have prevented this gigantic rip-off for the tax payer. But nationalization was, and still is, a taboo word in the USA, the land of the “efficient free-market ideology”.

GuestApril 10th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

This post recommended by Gloomy explains why Obama does not say, Save; he says, Buy. The entire US economy rests on a Ponzi Debt Scheme. And as buying on debt decreases, unemployment increases, simultaneously. To counter the collapse in buying, the government is pump priming, but debt accumulation is swamping the government’s stimulus and unemployment is exploding. To make the situation worse, courtesy of the globalization of production, the USA no longer has productive capacity to employ those thrown into “unemployment via this debt-ridden collapse.” (As Gloomy said, “You can skim over the Aussie stuff, if not interested to get to the U.S. situation.”) Here is why monetary stimulus isn’t working and “the economy will tank and unemployment will explode.”__________“Who’d a thought it? Unemployment leaps 0.5% (Australia) in a month” by Steve Keen in DebtwatchApril 9, 2009 — …As usual the latest set of data from the ABS on the economy was “unexpectedly worse…”That was right in line with what I was expecting from a non-orthodox “Hyman Minsky” point of view. As I have argued in numerous blogs, aggregate demand is the sum of GDP plus the change in debt. Now that our economy is utterly debt-dependent, the debt-financed asset-price bubbles have burst, and debt de-leveraging has begun in earnest, the economy will tank and unemployment will explode as debt-financed spending evaporates.The key chart I’ve published… shows the correlation between the contribution the change in private debt makes to aggregate demand and the unemployment rate…As the economy has become more and more debt-dependent–as the ratio of Debt to GDP has risen–this correlation has gone from being trivial to explaining 95% of the level of unemployment.For those who believe that “Australia is different”… for the USA…[t]he only difference is one of time: they began their decline in this Depression about a year before we did. But we are rapidly catching up.The dramatic deterioration in the economy comes as a surprise to conventional “neoclassical” economists because they exclude debt (and money) from their model of how the economy works. This failed model of the operations of a market economy is why they are incapable of explaining the economy’s behaviour today.With the debt contribution to demand now plummeting, unemployment will rise to levels that are unprecedented in the post WWII period–and they may even rival the Great Depression.Attempts to inflate our way out of this via either government spending or quantitative easing will also fail.The sheer scale of private debt de-leveraging swamps the government’s pump priming, while there is so much debt relative to government created money that the latter will have to be increased by astronomical amounts–and given to those in debt, rather than to the banks–to counter the collapse in demand caused by private deleveraging…Even the slowdown in debt accumulation [in Australis] will swamp the government’s stimulus. In 2007-08, the last year of our debt bubble, private debt rose by $259 billion–adding 20% to aggregate demand. The fall of this to zero–a simple stabilisation of private debt–will remove 20% of demand from the economy. This is what is causing unemployment to explode now.On the monetary front, Bernanke has literally doubled government-created money in the USA in a matter of months, but even so the ratio of private debt to this is close to 30 to 1. He’d need to create twenty times as much (and give it to the debtors to cancel their debts, rather than to the banks in a futile attempt to maintain their facade of solvency) before there would be any chance of a monetary stimulus working. I simply can’t see him trying it.Even if he did (and our local RBA followed suit), and even if governments maintained the scale of fiscal stimulus they are now imparting, there would still be the reality (for the USA, the UK and Australia, and some European nations) that, courtesy of the globalisation of production, they no longer have the productive capacity to employ those who are going to be thrown into unemployment via this debt-driven collapse.The problems caused by the neoclassical economic philosophy of the last 40 years were papered over by debt. To steal a phrase from Warren Buffett, now that debt is collapsing–and debt-finance can no longer be used to purchase cheap Asian goods–the nakedness of that philosophy will be exposed by the outgoing tide…http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2009/04/09/whod-a-thought-it-unemployment-leaps-05-in-a-month/ (WITH CHARTS)____________That’s why the Fed’s pump priming is a failed attempt to keep the Ponzi going. That’s why Obama’s pump priming to stimulate consumption will fail: here’s a small peek at Stimulus 2009 from Wikipedia:.Tax relief for individualsTotal: $237 billion· $116 billion: New payroll tax credit of $400 per worker and $800 per couple in 2009 and 2010. Phaseout begins at $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 for joint filers. [30]· $70 billion: Alternative minimum tax: a one year increase in AMT floor to $70,950 for joint filers for 2009.[30]· $15 billion: Expansion of child tax credit: A $1,000 credit to more families (even those that do not make enough money to pay income taxes).· $14 billion: Expanded college credit to provide a $2,500 expanded tax credit for college tuition and related expenses for 2009 and 2010. The credit is phased out for couples making more than $160,000.· $6.6 billion: Homebuyer credit: $8,000 refundable credit for all homes bought between 1/1/2009 and 12/1/2009 and repayment provision repealed for homes purchased in 2009 and held more than three years. This only applies to first-time homebuyers.[31]· $4.7 billion: Excluding from taxation the first $2,400 a person receives in unemployment compensation benefits in 2009.· $4.7 billion: Expanded earned income tax credit to increase the earned income tax credit — which provides money to low income workers — for families with at least three children.· $4.3 billion: Home energy credit to provide an expanded credit to homeowners who make their homes more energy-efficient in 2009 and 2010. Homeowners could recoup 30 percent of the cost up to $1,500 of numerous projects, such as installing energy-efficient windows, doors, furnaces and air conditioners.· $1.7 billion: for deduction of sales tax from car purchases, not interest payments phased out for incomes above $250,000.For the full view, ie. Tax Relief for Companies such as the $15 billion allowing companies to use current losses to offset profits made in the previous five years, instead of two, making them eligible for tax refunds, see Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009

RcoutmeApril 10th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

Did you read the previous comment by Zing? P/E ratios are usually 10-12, not 24! If the Wall Street normals see the real earnings of their investments (which they are sure to do sooner or later), the S&P and DJIA could fall as much at 50% more.

GuestApril 10th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

Rick Ackerman of Rick’s Picks shows the same respect for this vicious bear as Roubini.. Today iTulip posts Rick’s “plain old horse sense…” when confronted with a bear…Why Only Fools Think the Bottom Is InFrom EJ’s good buddy Rick Ackerman.The back-of-the-napkin numbers sketched out below are the handiwork of our good friend Doug B., a stockbroker who not only helped his clients dodge the bullet of recession/depression, but who also brought them some tidy returns on their portfolios last year. Doug got his clients out of stocks and heavily into Treasurys before the latter took off in 2008, and he has since redeployed the proceeds aggressively in municipal bonds. During our lunch together on Wednesday, he presented a very persuasive case as to why only an imbecile or someone enthralled by Larry Kudlow could possibly think the stock market has seen its ultimate lows. The fatal problem for that kind of optimism, he says, is, in a word, capitulation — or rather, the absence of capitulation in a bear market that so far has been marked by more or less orderly declines the whole way down. Indeed, we should ask: How could the stock market have hit bottom if everyone who was on board at the top is still on board?And everyone is on board, for sure, if you parse some of the key numbers circled in red on Doug’s tablecloth pastiche (which, incidentally, he drew and labeled upside down). The first number notes that in January 2008, when the S&Ps were in the early stages of what was to become a devastating collapse, domestic equity mutual funds were worth about $6.5 trillion. Lo, a little more than a year later, in February 2009, we see that the value of these funds had fallen by about 48%, to $3.4 trillion. But guess what: Over that time, net redemptions totaled only 2%, or about $100 billion! What that means, explicitly, is that mutual fund investors have stuck with this bear market throughout the decline.So, do we infer that guys like Kudlow, Suze Orman and CNBC’s talking heads actually believe this bear market will somehow be different from all others before it, with no exhaustion selling to carve out a durable low?We do not merely doubt this, we view such an outcome as very nearly impossible. This bear market will end, like every other bear market in history, with a wholesale dumping of stocks at prices that will make current values seem exorbitant in comparison.http://www.itulip.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5

PeteCAApril 10th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

Zing: I think so too. The next test of the major market lows will be important. That will be a key decision point for where things go in the intermediate term.PeteCA

PeteCAApril 10th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

I have news. We are all carrying a monkey on our back. In fact, America is carrying a gorilla on its back. It’s the $13 trillion dollars that has been spent by the Gov’t to bail out this crisis. We are going to pay very dearly for this debacle over the long term.Obama may be hopeful today, but I have a feeling that when he looks back over his presidency (a long time in the future) he will deeply regret the money thrown at the Wall Street banks. His two biggest mistakes in office were both made within 3 months of taking the helm.PeteCA

RealistApril 10th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

Doug Kass’s call was dumb luck, nothing more. It doesn’t seem to me that the Professor issues calls to time the market. His calls tend to be generalizations.

RcoutmeApril 10th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

Nationalization (i.e. taking over the investment firms, shadow banking system, and bank holding companies) is far, far more difficult than you realize. These places are NOT insured by FDIC. If they were to go into Chapter 11 or Chapter 13 the world would have another ‘September moment’; where the entire world financial system nearly collapsed due to the demise of Lehman Brothers. I am NOT defending the thieves who have stolen much of America’s near future, I am only pointing out that these institutions, as currently comprised, are, in fact, too big to fail.The next logical move by our government (which is unlikely to happen, since our government is rarely logical) would be to trust-bust these institutions. As far as I can tell, not a single mega-corporation of the financial industry got their w/o a merger or acquisition. Thus, it is time to break them back up. We MUST eliminate the presence of global corporations that are too big to fail (with the exception of those that grow themselves there–we should not place a limit on individual ingenuity. We have an obligation to place a limit on the merging of individual ingenuity, i.e. mergers of corporations creating near monopolies or institutions that are too big to fail).

GuestApril 10th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

Speaking of ladies of the night, what Suze Orman is to the Wall Street barkers, Dr. Ruth was to the promiscuity promoters for the young.

PeteCAApril 10th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

We should point out, the rapid rise off the market lows was due to large amounts of short covering. Not due to huge new buy-ins for the market. Shorts covered not because “they were wrong”, but because it was a good time to take profits after the big market descent prior to the lows. They made a LOT of money by reacting to the bear market when it got started. They also stand to make a lot more money when this bear market rally subsides again.PeteCA

CLakeApril 10th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

What I meant with “nationalization” was in fact “temporary nationalization” : break the banks into smaller pieces (regional, or by specialty), triage of sound and unsound assets, reprivatization of the smaller sound pieces, liquidation of the rest. Just make sure that the losses on the bad assets get allocated to the corresponding debtholders. This process could have taken place during the temporary nationalization and wouldn’t have cost a dime to the American tax payer in the end.

MarkApril 10th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

Anyone positing an upward long-term trend is betting against physics.And to further add to the sense of absurdity, it’s all being predicated on worthless paper!Mark

GuestApril 10th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

Nonsense to think Kass had skill to call a bottom; his call was based upon an oversold & negative sentiment market.Today we have the opposite, an overbought & extended positive sentiment; Kass has acknowledge this technical condition and stated the market will correct as a result.Point being: anyone/everyone has this information.

MarkApril 10th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

Yup!Chart of the DayAlcoa officially kicked off earnings season Tuesday after the close. Alcoa reported a loss of $497 million in the first quarter. For some perspective into the current earnings environment, today’s chart compares S&P 500 earnings performance during the current economic recession (solid red line) to that of the last recession (dashed gold line) and the average recession from 1936-2006 (dashed blue line). As today’s chart illustrates, the current decline in earnings is several orders of magnitude greater than the average decline during a recession. The current decline is also more severe than what was the most severe earnings decline on record – the decline that began in 2001 (gold dashed line). (emphasis added)Mark

GuestApril 10th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

ANYONE PLEASE: is the S&P earning for 2009 to be just $35.00?? Isn’t Roubini forecasting $50 to $60??

MarkApril 10th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

I have to wonder why Roubini isn’t continuing to use the “pushing on a string” phrase.It IS THE question: what will make consumers consume? As natural resources diminish the costs can only increase (to reflect true scarcity); and it’s natural resources that tend to produce the greatest margins (such as oil).We’re also losing economies of scale, in which case this cannot be a linear descent.Mark

GuestApril 10th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

You’re very correct, I believe. A study of the chart clearly illustrates that investment reaction/investment behavior with rising & falling markets and ‘that’ doesn’t change with a calendar’s date. Expect history to be repeated before this bear returns to hibernation.

GuestApril 10th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

So the S&P typically requires some 30 to 40 months to returns to it’s prior, baseline level of earnings – and, with this earning decline much deeper, the recovery time will likely take longer. Being at the 17 month point in time, we are only half-way there.

CLakeApril 10th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

Since the begining of this crisis, earnings have systematically surprised on the downside. Optimism has prevailed all along, a bad habit of so called experts…So they will most probably surprise on the downside once again, there will be a new low.Having said this, if they are above Q408 earnings, that new low might not go as low as the previous 666 level of early March.Then, I believe it will be time to start moving from cash to equities, and hold them for a year or two, but not more, because then, real capitulation will come hitting.This recession will be in two phases, with a small recovery in the middle thanks to the keynesian money pumping. There’s no free-lunch though.

CLakeApril 10th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

That’s the reason why debt is accelerating faster than GDP. And as resources will become scarcer, we will continue to deplete them in an accelerated manner, accumulating debt in an accelerated manner : it’s all about parking “externalities” out of the system, for the elites in charge, as long as they don’t have the responsibility to solve the problem, it’s fine.The model of growth on which the US economy has been based for the last 30 years is a complete farce : grow GDP at 3.5% per annum, and debt (public+private) at 10% per annum ! GDP doubles every 20 years, debt every 7 years : we’re now at 350% debt/GDP, we’ll be at 22000% at the end of this century, whoever thinks this can continue for the rest of the 21st century, in a world of finite resources, is completely mad.But our elites know nothing else. So they want to continue the same model of human development until it’s too late : it’s what they call “unleashing the human potential”.

HayesApril 10th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

Kass is an ass – I’ve posted links in other threads of his earlier calls and his love and adoration for Jim (Buffoon) Cramer.

HayesApril 10th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

March 9 Dow close 6,547.05March 10 Dow close 6,926.49March 10 “Doug Kass used the words generational last night on CNBC. If the SEC follows through and reinstates the uptick and FAS 157 fixes we’re at generational lows.March 20 Dow close 7,278.38 +5.1%March 30 Dow close 7,522.02 +8.6%April 9 Dow close 8,083.38 +16.7%

GuestApril 10th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

Federal Tax Receipts Off 28 Percent YoYby CalculatedRisk on 4/10/2009 02:46:00 PMFrom Rex Nutting at MarketWatch: Budget deficit triples to $957 billion for yearThe U.S. federal budget deficit rose to a record $956.8 billion in the first six months of the fiscal year … the Treasury Department reported Friday….In March, the deficit widened to $192.3 billion from $48.2 billion in March 2008. Outlays rose 41% to $321.2 billion from $227 billion, while receipts dropped 28% to $129 billion from $178.8 billion.For March 2009, receipts were off 27.9% compared to March 2008.For individual income taxes, receipts were off 27.3%.For corporate income taxes, receipts were off 89.6% (from $32.6 billion in March 2008 to $3.4 billion in March 2009).For Social Security payroll taxes – Employment and General Retirement (off-budget) – receipts were flat.The year-over-year decline in receipts is similar to the previous recession, but that decline was a combination of a weak economy and tax changes. This decline is all about the economy – especially the sharp decline in corporate tax receipts.http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/

anon e-moose , darklyApril 10th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

http://suddendebt.blogspot.com/search?q=.Monday, March 16, 2009CDS As Money In The ShadowsAs of today I have changed the masthead of the blog to reflect my growing interest in monetary economics which, quite obviously to me, is at the very heart of the current financial crisis. There are certainly other critical influences shaping events (climate change, resource depletion and geopolitical tensions are foremost) but money clearly matters the most, day-to-day.In fact, one could argue that every human activity ends up being factored into and reflected as money flows. If energy flow is the real (i.e. physical) manifestation of human activity, then money flow is its metaphysical – one could even say philosophical – equivalent. The funny thing about money is that, though it is ”unreal”, even kids have a feel for it in daily transactions, whereas the “real” energy is completely nebulous in peoples’ minds.And yet, as befits any philosophic entity, few have a clue about what truly constitutes money – and this includes many so-called professionals. Most just think of money as currency in circulation: dollars, euros, yen and rubles in their pockets or in banks’ vaults. Some take a further step and include deposits in banks, properly understanding them to be mere book entries. But it is very few who make the mental leap required to properly view debt as money – indeed, the very idea is antithetical to “common sense”.And yet, that’s exactly what our current, fiat-issue money is. The acceptance of new debits (debt) by those willing to assume them creates equivalent new credits (money) and presto, new money is created out of, literally, faith. To paraphrase a familiar text:Credo est fides omnipoténtem, factórem cæli et terræ, visibílium ómnium et invisibílium.Credit is omnipotent faith, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible.I am sure that longtime readers of this blog are already familiar with all this stuff, Christian Credo in Latin and all. So I wrote the above as mere preamble to today’s “out-of-the-box post”.Onwards, then..The idea hit me as I was thinking more and more about CDS (credit default swaps) and their role in today’s mess. I was quite surprised by Mr. Bernanke’s repeated comments on how “angry” he was at AIG and their ruinous exposure to the CDS market. Now, a Fed chairman – the person most responsible for controlling our money – doesn’t get “angry” in public, unless he has a very, very good reason and/or a serious point to make. To continue in the same vein as above, it’s a bit like the Pope publicly denouncing one of his most important cardinals.Why?Because AIG and all other major CDS players did something very unorthodox, heretical even. They assumed monetary powers above and beyond those of a mere financial acolyte: they created money without having to submit to the prior omnipotent authority of the Fed.I have previously discussed CDSs acting as phantom equity equivalents. But can they also be viewed as phantom money – indeed, very high-powered money? Yes, they can – and that’s a key element to what has become known as “the shadow banking system”.The issuance of CDSs created obligations to pay pre-determined sums every year for, typically, five years – i.e. debts. They were created out of thin air and required no reserving at the Fed or anywhere else. There was no taxation, wage income, rents, mine output, oil wells or anything else tangible backing those debts. So what backed them? Faith, pure and simple. That’s as close as we have ever come to creating the absolute faith-based financial instrument. The Dutch, those early tulip-bubblers, knew a thing or two about such instruments: windhandel they called it, or trading in wind.A CDS Party Carried In The WindFlora’s Wagon of Fools by Hendrik Pot (c. 1637)There are several important observations and corollaries that can be drawn from viewing CDSs as uncontrolled money creation (see chart below). I will leave them to readers by posing this question: as CDS amounts outstanding now crash down through a combination of expiration, forced migration to regulated exchanges and negotiated settlement, what is the effect on money supply, the prospect for inflation/deflation and asset prices?.Posted by Hellasious at Monday, March 16, 2009..comment…so debt is money, and any one on the “inside” can create it out of wind. digital counterfeiting.no?

ChignosApril 10th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

Why not just let the banking system fail? You’re illogical to believe they’re too big to fail, but then you want to see them trust-busted. Why not let the market, not the bureaucrats, decide who fails and who doesn’t? You are an elitist. No one besides Mr. market knows the best way to restructure the financial system. One thing is for certain. Regardless of what any of the elitists finagle, their prescriptions will only be short-lived. The market will ultimately punish those whose hubris won’t allow them to admit they are hopelessly inadequate to manage the world.

MarkApril 10th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

This may or may not end up winning some journalistic award, but it’s an extremely important article that looks at the poster-child of the financial disaster- Iceland.Wall Street on the Tundra[Excerpt:]—When Neil Armstrong took his small step from Apollo 11 and looked around, he probably thought, Wow, sort of like Iceland—even though the moon was nothing like Iceland. But then, he was a tourist, and a tourist can’t help but have a distorted opinion of a place: he meets unrepresentative people, has unrepresentative experiences, and runs around imposing upon the place the fantastic mental pictures he had in his head when he got there. When Iceland became a tourist in global high finance it had the same problem as Neil Armstrong. Icelanders are among the most inbred human beings on earth—geneticists often use them for research. They inhabited their remote island for 1,100 years without so much as dabbling in leveraged buyouts, hostile takeovers, derivatives trading, or even small-scale financial fraud. When, in 2003, they sat down at the same table with Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, they had only the roughest idea of what an investment banker did and how he behaved—most of it gleaned from young Icelanders’ experiences at various American business schools. And so what they did with money probably says as much about the American soul, circa 2003, as it does about Icelanders. They understood instantly, for instance, that finance had less to do with productive enterprise than trading bits of paper among themselves. And when they lent money they didn’t simply facilitate enterprise but bankrolled friends and family, so that they might buy and own things, like real investment bankers: Beverly Hills condos, British soccer teams and department stores, Danish airlines and media companies, Norwegian banks, Indian power plants.That was the biggest American financial lesson the Icelanders took to heart: the importance of buying as many assets as possible with borrowed money, as asset prices only rose. By 2007, Icelanders owned roughly 50 times more foreign assets than they had in 2002. They bought private jets and third homes in London and Copenhagen. They paid vast sums of money for services no one in Iceland had theretofore ever imagined wanting. “A guy had a birthday party, and he flew in Elton John for a million dollars to sing two songs,” the head of the Left-Green Movement, Steingrimur Sigfusson, tells me with fresh incredulity. “And apparently not very well.” They bought stakes in businesses they knew nothing about and told the people running them what to do—just like real American investment bankers! For instance, an investment company called FL Group—a major shareholder in Glitnir bank—bought an 8.25 percent stake in American Airlines’ parent corporation. No one inside FL Group had ever actually run an airline; no one in FL Group even had meaningful work experience at an airline. That didn’t stop FL Group from telling American Airlines how to run an airline. “After taking a close look at the company over an extended period of time,” FL Group C.E.O. Hannes Smarason, graduate of M.I.T.’s Sloan School, got himself quoted saying, in his press release, not long after he bought his shares, “our suggestions include monetizing assets … that can be used to reduce debt or return capital to shareholders.”Nor were the Icelanders particularly choosy about what they bought. I spoke with a hedge fund in New York that, in late 2006, spotted what it took to be an easy mark: a weak Scandinavian bank getting weaker. It established a short position, and then, out of nowhere, came Kaupthing to take a 10 percent stake in this soon-to-be defunct enterprise—driving up the share price to absurd levels. I spoke to another hedge fund in London so perplexed by the many bad LBOs Icelandic banks were financing that it hired private investigators to figure out what was going on in the Icelandic financial system. The investigators produced a chart detailing a byzantine web of interlinked entities that boiled down to this: A handful of guys in Iceland, who had no experience of finance, were taking out tens of billions of dollars in short-term loans from abroad. They were then re-lending this money to themselves and their friends to buy assets—the banks, soccer teams, etc. Since the entire world’s assets were rising—thanks in part to people like these Icelandic lunatics paying crazy prices for them—they appeared to be making money. Yet another hedge-fund manager explained Icelandic banking to me this way: You have a dog, and I have a cat. We agree that they are each worth a billion dollars. You sell me the dog for a billion, and I sell you the cat for a billion. Now we are no longer pet owners, but Icelandic banks, with a billion dollars in new assets. “They created fake capital by trading assets amongst themselves at inflated values,” says a London hedge-fund manager. “This was how the banks and investment companies grew and grew. But they were lightweights in the international markets.”—Mark

PeteCAApril 10th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

See John Hussman’s article for last Monday. “Fighting Recklessness With Recklessness” – which is a great title for an article by the way. Go to http://www.hussmanfunds.comNote that Prof. Hussman is now coming round to the viewpoint that expectstions for forward earnings on the S&P could be significantly lower than historic trends. That point has been argued by other people on this blog.PeteCA

anon e-moose , darklyApril 10th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

and..from chart at link, faith based cdscollapsing from a national peak of 62 trillion, 2nd half 2007.globally cds in the hundreds of trillions, collapsing?to what effect .question one , what effect on money supply? guess. the money ( sovereign ) supply isgobbled up in settlements of cds debts, leaving the real economy “in the wind”. (no money,deflating, losing value with no capacity to pay “legacy” (old world) debts and nocapacity to invest in any production to create employment to service the old debts.so “investment” will be directed by those who have played the cds market profitably.hmmm. where will they invest? toward environments with legacy costs? no.the sovereign can then print dollars for the real economy but distribution to debt holders(unserviceable already) cannot afford, do not qualify as credit worthy.a dynamic from the street. a zombie steals, by way of theft, say hold up or mugging,from someone else, say a stranger. they get away with the valuables thereby transferring,possibly, just a bit of there zombie heart to the victim. perhaps.question two.. later.question three. asset prices. who cares? when you say “price” that implies an economywith a legitimate currency. this has been exposed to be merely “wind”.back to question 2. i say we are neither in an economic recession or period ofeconomic depression, but in a period, or phase, of economic retribution and revolution.as for investigation, official analysis and correction, the sooner the better.forget the stress test, go for urine samples. these toxic cds, i suspect, will show up there.or, what the hell, just forget about it. it seems like one of those elephant in theroom things and i have lived with elephants in the room before as i’m sure you have too.no? and yes it smells and is uncomfortable and dangerous so be careful.

blind de miloApril 10th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

m,freakin’ amazing. in broad daylightand nobody saw anything. some thingsare just too common and obvious to beappreciated, both the good and the badi guess.

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 12:04 am

yes it is a valid point that not all of the money going to the financial institutions goes to cover “valid” / “honest” / “legal” losses. Some of the amounts reported as losses by the institutions could be fraudulent.Sort of like a reverse of earlier in this decade when inflated fake income was reported by many companies – now many may report inflated losses. The companies books should be audited by a third party.

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 1:03 am

More Quickly Than It Began, The Banking Crisis Is Over

…But, the great banking crisis of 2008 is over. It began last September 15 when Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy and bottomed when Citigroup (C) traded below $1 last month. Most analysts believe that mortgage-backed securities which included packages of subprime home loans failed when mortgage default rates went up and housing prices raced down. That is only partially true. Banks made a tremendous series of ill-advised loans to private equity firms, hedge funds, commercial real estate holders, and the average man with a credit card balance which he cannot pay. (See pictures of the top 10 scared traders.)…It is equally safe to say that the large American banks are works in progress which are, in most ways, still dilapidated. Treasury Department analysts may not have the IQs of the PhDs who created mortgage-backed securities, but they did not do their detective work blindly when they insisted that bank balance sheets and loan portfolios needed close examination….The banking crisis may be over, but what is left is a reclamation job that will probably take years to complete, will still have a taxpayer price tag of over $1 trillion, and will leave America’s largest financial firms as institutions of modest power and a regulated scope which will prevent them from looking anything like what they did two years ago.

PeterJBApril 11th, 2009 at 4:14 am

@ BrainTrust: Additional commentFurther consideration of your first article and one of the Prime Forces in play, yet to be considered:”But it does not have to mean we all are dragged down. Freely flowing information could and should function as an upward leveler.”@ braintrust Article 1 of 10 (above)The Internet has provided as never before, to those with the ability and love of the pursuit of knowledge, and in preferred anonymity, not only that knowledge that was prior to the 1990′s + unavailable but more importantly, the opinions and remarks of those persons that consider things and matters seriously; a whole cross-section of vital and active Mind ( a verbe) consuming prior knowledge and feeding upon dynamic intellectual pursuit within the body collective or,from Thread (Copyright PeterJB):Intelligence – a self organizational universal phenomena: Interactive emergence phenomenon constrained by contextuality and structured by complicity a Universal Evolutionary Strategy.cognatus – scientia intuitiva – intellectusConsilienceWhat this means is that the human collective condition has been ‘infused’ with knowledge in exponential terms and access to the Internet and its knowledge base is creating an ‘intellectual induction’ never before experienced or considered possible in methodology (the concept or ideation is actual well known and fairly ancient) and this availability is creating, throughout this World, in those of the kind and typing that are of characteristic and nature of qualitative knowledge, knowledge creativity. This availability then, is vital and dynamic in its active states of creative complicity and the process is well known as “Consilience”.A reference I recommend as important: Consilience, by Edward O. WilsonThere are several processes that herein are important:1. The intellectual and intelligences process through cross spectrum analogy though the consideration of physical Principles ie. there is only one set of Universal Laws which effect slightly differently (in perspective) in parochial milieux,2. Osirian reductionism where physical notation is broken into smaller bits and re-organized in trials of Mind (a verbe)until the process is of comprehension, where the approach is not a priori, hierarchical,3. Gaining of the overall and comprehensive understanding of phenomenal dynamics ie, the Big Picture and core energies that supply the Causal chain of Cause and Effect, that is, the entity progress ‘measure’ between Cause and Effect,”Wisdom is one thing. It is to know the thought by which all things are steered through all things.” …Heraclitus4. Anomalous data vs. metadata. The melding of all data through the processes of qualitative consideration of anomalies within the individual specialist contextual preferences with metadata so as to build that resultant Eureka Moment,aka Consilience or Ionian Enchantment.Now considering my position here, the reader, upon which this message evokes an intellectual response, immediately understands the processes that are playing out in the fields of humanity and it is here that represents the Prime Force of a major and most significant Intellectual Jump into the 21st. Century.There are today, huge advances being made in the technology sectors and this will continue and it is most vitally important that the Internet, be upgraded to Very High Capacity Pervasive Availability in terms of Intellectual Infrastructure* (and all human activities) and become available to all man to draw from and to contribute to, freely and without Censorship. We are now dependent upon this component of technology for our very existence.It is now time that the social sciences and the humanities be brought out of Plato’s Cave and subjected to the light of essential scientific enquiry. Cellular and Molecular Biology has made many great gains in recent years to such activities whilst it is the field of economics, that represents the vital movements of energies between the human components which a priori, needs, nay demands and screams out to be, finally subjected to visual sightings and questioning though reductive causal analogies.Or, we cannot continue to be led by Neanderthals of the Clan, Cave Bear. It is time to step into the light of day.* Where infrastructure is a core structural component which permits freely the building upon and drawing from, all and any such organizations of all men in either commercial and or non-commercial activities. It is not run by monopolistic licensee’s; but is considered utility; Hands off.Ho hum

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 4:55 am

Yes. Agreed. There is a fine firm named Arthur Andersen that I feel would be perfect for the job…..

CLakeApril 11th, 2009 at 5:25 am

There’s two possibilities :1 – they are either too big to fail and only the process of “temporary nationalization” would restructure and dismantle them without ripping off the tax payer2 – or they are not too big too fail and letting the market sort things out would provide the most efficient solution over the long termI am not a market fundamentalist. I can’t prejudge that the Market is always efficient, there are concrete examples when it’s not : when it parks “externalities” (ie debt, or environmental) outside of the sstem and leaves them to future generations to take care of.Therefore, I cannot prejudge which alternative is best. One thing is for sure, the current alternative chosen by the administration, bailing out the banks and spreading the losses on the tax payer is the worst of all.Alternative 1 has been tried succesfully in Sweden in 1992. We know it can work. Alternative 2, “let the market decide”, we don’t know : there’s a high risk that this really causes a rupture of the system, because the institutional machine made sure that we became addicted to debt and the financial institutions that supply it and simply removing the drug without any other form of support is not sure it will work.I am not saying I disagree with you. There are aspects of Austrian Economics that I find appealing, but I am a realist, you can’t serve an addict with Austrian economics. Our governments are there, they exist, they will intervene, this is as sure as the earth will go round. Better make sure they don’t intervene in the wrong manner and rip off the American people. That’s all I am concerned about for the time being.

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 5:49 am

This article belongs to the top 10 list of the most pathetic articles of this month.TIME does publish some really thick nonsense !

jugglingcdosApril 11th, 2009 at 6:12 am

Spread The LOve…………Russia test fires intercontinental missilehttp://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=91014&sectionid=351020602Russia has successfully test-launched a PC-12M Topol intercontinental ballistic missile, Russian news agencies have reported.According to the agencies, the missile was jointly launched by the Strategic Rocket Forces and the Space Forces from the Plesetsk Cosmodrome on Friday.

AnonymousApril 11th, 2009 at 7:49 am

Here’s how the problem got started for Iceland:”When, in 2003, they sat down at the same table with Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, they had only the roughest idea of what an investment banker did and how he behaved—most of it gleaned from young Icelanders’ experiences at various American business schools.”The way I see it, it’s a Goldman Sachs/Morgan Stanley initiated problem. These names are held in high esteem. They are something of a gold standard. You as an investor seeking advice and guidance from these entities should be able to trust that advice and guidance. You should, yes really, you should. It was the fiduciary duty of Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley to place the interests of their client before their own. It was the fiduciary duty of Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley to provide appropriate advice and counsel to their client. That’s not to completely absolve the actions of the reckless Icelandic financiers. But one has to wonder whether this problem could have been nipped in the bud had Goldman and Morgan provided appropriate and wise counsel. If I were in this business and I had a client acting this way I would do whatever I could to put the brakes on, even to the point of disassociating from the client.

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 7:52 am

Looks like there has been a lot of anger and hatred in Iceland after this crisis started.“I’m Sorry You’re So Stupid:” Head of Iceland’s Central Bank Refuses to Step Down

Iceland’s interim Prime Minister, Johanna Sigurdardottir, has asked the members of the Central Bank to submit their resignations so that that institution can be overhauled in a way that will inspire trust in foreign investors.Although one of the three governors complied with this request, David Oddsson and Eirikur Gudnason have refused, with David sending a letter excoriating Johanna for her impertinence.A more humble man would perhaps have recalled De Gaulle’s remark, that the cemeteries are filled with essential men, and left the matter to others….David does make one valid point. The Central Bank was created to serve as an independent body that would safeguard the nation’s finances from political influence. To bow to Johanna’s request would signal that the Central Bank is nothing but another governmental agency subject to the whims of the electorate.It is obvious, though, that the political independence of the Central Bank was nothing more than an illusion….

blind moldApril 11th, 2009 at 7:59 am

@ above, mark & pjb.personal road trip / obligation imminent. thanks for the linksin advance. and i have never seen the language functionso well, at such a level. what you do is magical, really.mike.

devils advocateApril 11th, 2009 at 8:09 am

George Soros says that the “financial markets have collapsed”-many, if not most, need the illusions and delusionsthe rest of the world, toothe unpleasant truths shock the systemand we try to avoid themhowever, in order to invest, it is necessary to absorb themand move on

MM CAApril 11th, 2009 at 8:26 am

This will continue… all the unemployed people will not be paying any taxes… and at U6 of 20% and going to U6 27-32% in the next 18 months the Fed and states and local Gov’ts will be down big time on their income/collections/receipts and not one entity is factoring these dramatic drops. Take it further to corporate income and taxes paid and problem gets even bigger. And of course those making any profits, like the Banks, will figure out ways to not pay their fair share of taxes. So essentially our economy will turn in to one that can’t pay its debt, bills, interest, and all because there are no jobs and we are not re-inventing ourselves or producing/making anything anymore. We are in the third inning of this disaster/collapse. Real pain has yet to come…Fed and state governments are bankrupt, they just won’t admit it… and so are the Banks… We inject about 1 trillion every month somewhere just to keep things going and hoping to fight another day. As I have said there will 1-2 months of where things look like they are better as it seems now, but the real data suggests otherwise. Each time the hammer hits harder on the head when real data finally surfaces…. Be prepared and do not be fooled by this latest stock market burp… The only ones making money during this upturn are the ones that don’t need it…. 99.9% of all Americans are not making one penny on this latest market upswing… all they are doing are squeezing every last cent out of us.

MM CAApril 11th, 2009 at 8:28 am

DO NOT BE FOOLEDThis Disaster will continue… all the unemployed people will not be paying any taxes… and at U6 of 20% and going to U6 27-32% in the next 18 months the Fed and states and local Gov’ts will be down big time on their income/collections/receipts and not one entity is factoring these dramatic drops. Take it further to corporate income and taxes paid and problem gets even bigger. And of course those making any profits, like the Banks, will figure out ways to not pay their fair share of taxes. So essentially our economy will turn in to one that can’t pay its debt, bills, interest, and all because there are no jobs and we are not re-inventing ourselves or producing/making anything anymore. We are in the third inning of this disaster/collapse. Real pain has yet to come…Fed and state governments are bankrupt, they just won’t admit it… and so are the Banks… We inject about 1 trillion every month somewhere just to keep things going and hoping to fight another day. As I have said there will 1-2 months of where things look like they are better as it seems now, but the real data suggests otherwise. Each time the hammer hits harder on the head when real data finally surfaces…. Be prepared and do not be fooled by this latest stock market burp… The only ones making money during this upturn are the ones that don’t need it…. 99.9% of all Americans are not making one penny on this latest market upswing… all they are doing are squeezing every last cent out of us.

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 9:13 am

It is appropiate to post this Michael Hudson piece on the Iceland situation. It seems that their mortgages are indexed to inflation and will become a permanent albatross around the population’s neck. The historical context and the exponential or geometric nature of debt as opposed to arithmetic economic growth is explored in this article. It may be of interest for us to do the math and realize that the changes in the last 25 years have institutionalized a financial control over sovereignty that is being finalized with the prominence of debt in this global crisis. The issuance of debt perpetuates the power of the creditor. At some point all sovereignty will be relinquished to the Financial Interests under some kind of an elaborate GlobalFinancial set of Institutions. The Institutions will be presented as benign. just as the Bretton Woods began, however they will morph into raw power. The most powerfultechnology invented was convincing sovereigns to put the power of the state behind banking which is an interest yielding ponzi scheme that eventually controls any society.http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13055

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 9:20 am

interview with (Post CNBC- Dylan Ratigan)”Blodget: Last question. You’ve been right in the middle of this meltdown day after day, interviewing the smartest people, etc. So is this a new bull market, or is this another suckers’ rally?Ratigan: Suckers’ rally. No question…”http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-dylan-ratigan-speaks-and-hes-angry-2009-4

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 9:21 am

It is only a matter of time before an internet gatekeeper system is devised to take our power to interact and think things out together. We either become active participants indemocracy or we will not recognize the future. Do you think the powers that be do not realize that our cummulative contributions are a threat to their monopoly of the Zombified Population’s information sources. Today is that day where you can make your presence known to others physically in demonstrations of a “new way foward” around the country.

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 9:22 am

from ZeroHedge via NCThe Incredibly Shrinking Market Liquidity, Or The Upcoming Black Swan Of Black SwansPosted by Tyler Durden at 3:40 PMhttp://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/04/incredibly-shrinking-market-liquidity.html

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 9:37 am

China Turns a Corner as Spending Takes Holdhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB123934751932407099.htmlbut according to Setser”Call me crazy, but judging from the trade data alone, I would say China experienced a recession in q4 2008 and q1 2009. “http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/04/10/big-changes-but-not-much-adjustment-chinas-march-trade-data/

FEDupApril 11th, 2009 at 9:42 am

Fantastic article-great post! If enough people read and understood what this author is saying, we could change the system overnight!

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 9:47 am

http://opennet.net/About ONIThe OpenNet Initiative is a collaborative partnership of four leading academic institutions: the Citizen Lab at the Munk Centre for International Studies, University of Toronto; Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University; the Advanced Network Research Group at the Cambridge Security Programme, University of Cambridge; and the Oxford Internet Institute, Oxford University.Our aim is to investigate, expose and analyze Internet filtering and surveillance practices in a credible and non-partisan fashion. We intend to uncover the potential pitfalls and unintended consequences of these practices, and thus help to inform better public policy and advocacy work in this area. To achieve these aims, the ONI employs a unique multi-disciplinary approach that includes: “

FEDupApril 11th, 2009 at 9:53 am

enlightening comments! In a far less elegant way, but perhaps one that the “average Joe” might understand: “when man finally realizes that the tail should not be wagging the dog, maybe the dog will stop returning to it’s own vomit”!

PeteCAApril 11th, 2009 at 10:23 am

MM CA: I’m onboard with you. The state governments are directly in the crosshairs – with this tremendous shortfall in tax income that is developing. Further big cutbacks for the states who are overspent is pretty much guaranteed. That certainly includes our own state (California).By the way, did you hear the latest advertising on the radio here for the votes on new propositions that are coming in a few weeks? It just doesn’t sound like anyone “gets it”. There is no economic recovery destined for California any time soon, and it’s ridiculous for people to imagine they can plan to roll back the state cuts on the school system.PeteCA

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 10:27 am

“At the end of the day, despite the pronouncements by the administration and more and more sell-side analysts that the market is merely chasing the rebound in fundamentals in what has all of a sudden become a V-shaped recovery, the “rally” could simply be explained by technical factor driven capital-liquidity aberrations, which will continue at most for mere weeks if not days.”Quants are the rocket scientists of the market”In the mid-’80s, Wall Street turned to the quants—brainy financial engineers—to invent new ways to boost profits. Their methods for minting money worked brilliantly… until one of them devastated the global economy. “http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/17-03/wp_quant?currentPage=alland this from a 2007 article in the Washington Post”Last week (2007), Goldman Sachs said its Global Alpha quant fund had lost 27 percent of its value this year because its computers failed to anticipate what the firm called “25 percent standard deviation moves” or events so rare Goldman had seen them only twice before in the firm’s history. On the same day Goldman revealed the bad news, the firm said it would lead a group of big-money investors, including philanthropist Eli Broad, in pouring $3.6 billion into another Goldman quant fund, aiming to shore up confidence in the quants.Barclays Global Investors, with $450 billion of its $2 trillion in assets under quant management, began applying mathematical tools to its funds in 1978. Last week, Barclays spokesman Lance Berg said the firm was “maintaining its investment process” despite the recent troubles. He would not say how much the Barclays quant funds had fluctuated during the period of turmoil.The acknowledged quant king is James Simons, 69, an M.I.T.-trained mathematician with a groundbreaking theory that physicists are using to plumb the mysteries of superstring study and get at the very nature of existence itself. Simons turned his big brain on investing after his math career, founding Renaissance Technologies quant shop. The firm pocketed $1.7 billion in investor fees last year, among the highest in the industry. In return, his clients can reap annual returns of more than 30 percent, according to news reports…. “http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/20/AR2007082001846.html

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 11:01 am

The internet!“What hath God wrought?” First Telegraphic Message, May 24, 1844. Samuel F. B. Morse Papers, 1793-1919“When people talk of the freedom of writing, speaking or thinking I cannot choose but laugh. No such thing ever existed. No such thing now exists; but I hope it will exist. But it must be hundreds of years after you and I shall write and speak no more.” John Adams: To Jefferson, July 15, 1818Yet, they speak again.Man has met the challenge to regain his freedom of speech. May it not be too late to regain his freedom.

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 11:17 am

MELTDOWN…………………!the dots connect!Michael Hudson – Economic Meltdown: The “Dollar Glut” is What Finances America’s Global Military Build-upQuote:I am traveling in Europe for three weeks to discuss the global financial crisis with government officials, politicians and labor leaders. What is most remarkable is how differently the financial problem is perceived over here. It’s like being in another economic universe, not just another continent.The U.S. media are silent about the most important topic policy makers are discussing here (and I suspect in Asia too): how to protect their countries from three inter-related dynamics: (1) the surplus dollars pouring into the rest of the world for yet further financial speculation and corporate takeovers; (2) the fact that central banks are obliged to recycle these dollar inflows to buy U.S. Treasury bonds to finance the federal U.S. budget deficit; and most important (but most suppressed in the U.S. media, (3) the military character of the U.S. payments deficit and the domestic federal budget deficit.Strange as it may seem * and irrational as it would be in a more logical system of world diplomacy * the “dollar glut” is what finances America’s global military build-up. It forces foreign central banks to bear the costs of America’s expanding military empire * effective “taxation without representation.” Keeping international reserves in “dollars” means recycling their dollar inflows to buy U.S. Treasury bills * U.S. government debt issued largely to finance the military.To date, countries have been as powerless to defend themselves against the fact that this compulsory financing of U.S. military spending is built into the global financial system. Neoliberal economists applaud this as “equilibrium,” as if it is part of economic nature and “free markets” rather than bare-knuckle diplomacy wielded with increasing aggressiveness by U.S. officials. The mass media chime in, pretending that recycling the dollar glut to finance U.S. military spending is “showing their faith in U.S. economic strength” by sending “their” dollars here to “invest.” It is as if a choice is involved, not financial and diplomatic compulsion to choose merely between “Yes” (from China, reluctantly), “Yes, please” (from Japan and the European Union) and “Yes, thank you” (Britain, Georgia and Australia).It is not “foreign faith in the U.S. economy” that leads foreigners to “put their money here.” This is a silly anthropomorphic picture of a more sinister dynamic. The “foreigners” in question are not consumers buying U.S. exports, nor are they private-sector “investors” buying U.S. stocks and bonds. The largest and most important foreign entities putting “their money” here are central banks, and it is not “their money” at all. They are sending back the dollars that foreign exporters and other recipients turn over to their central banks for domestic currency.When the U.S. payments deficit pumps dollars into foreign economies, these banks are being given little option except to buy U.S. Treasury bills and bonds * which the Treasury spends on financing an enormous, hostile military build-up to encircle the major dollar-recyclers * China, Japan and Arab OPEC oil producers. Yet these governments are forced to recycle dollar inflows in a way that funds U.S. military policies in which they have no say in formulating, and which threaten them more and more belligerently. That is why China and Russia took the lead in forming the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) a few years ago…Here’s the problem: The Coca Cola company recently tried to buy China’s largest fruit-juice producer and distributor. China already holds nearly $2 trillion in U.S. securities * way more than it needs or can use, inasmuch as the United States Government refuses to let it buy meaningful U.S. companies. If the U.S. buyout would have been permitted to go through, this would have confronted China with a dilemma: Choice #1 would be to let the sale go through and accept payment in dollars, reinvesting them in what the U.S. Treasury tells it to do *U.S. Treasury bonds yielding about 1%. China would take a capital loss on these when U.S. interest rates rise or when the dollar declines as the United States alone is pursuing expansionary Keynesian policies in an attempt to enable the U.S. economy to carry its debt overhead.Choice #2 is not to recycle the dollar inflows. This would lead the renminbi to rise against the dollar, thereby eroding China’s export competitiveness in world markets. So China chose a third way, which brought U.S. protests. It turned the sale of its tangible company for merely “paper” U.S. dollars * which went with the “choice” to fund further U.S. military encirclement of the S.C.O. The only people who seem not to be drawing this connection are the American mass media, and hence public. I can assure you from personal experience, it is being drawn here in Europe. (Here’s a good diplomatic question to discuss: Which will be the first European country besides Russia to join the S.C.O.?)http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9073

SantaClausApril 11th, 2009 at 11:20 am

@Guest on 2009-04-11 09:13:44

It may be of interest for us to do the math and realize that the changes in the last 25 years have institutionalized a financial control over sovereignty that is being finalized with the prominence of debt in this global crisis.The issuance of debt perpetuates the power of the creditor. At some point all sovereignty will be relinquished to the Financial Interests under some kind of an elaborate Global Financial set of Institutions. The Institutions will be presented as benign.

I agree with you. The situation seems sufficiently grave, especially in America, to be used to bring about sea-change in the form of some global solution involving international agreements.Considering that Americans have been the “forget UN and international agreements – we are doing this on our own” type, international agreements that affect the American society will need to be beneficial for Americans in order to be accepted by them. It is possible that this recession is thus used as a way to push through changes that would not have been possible before.However, debt is not the only way in which institutionalized control has been established. Other ways exist even though they are so common place that it may feel ridiculous to be viewed from this angle. We could consider for example:A. drinking water and electricity at homes and apartments. If the government so decides, they could cut these off.B. internet and cell phones. Even though internet is touted as an un-centralized, uncontrollable form of communication, it can still be cut off if the government so chooses (just as cell phones). The dangerous aspect of internet is not necessarily that the government blocks a website from you. It is that they allow you to use it and while you are using it, gather information about you. Take for example all social networking sites that can provide information about who your friends are (not necessarily whom you are connected to but those you actually communicate with)…

PeteCAApril 11th, 2009 at 11:36 am

Earlier post: “The U.S. media are silent about the most important topic policy makers are discussing here (and I suspect in Asia too): how to protect their countries from three inter-related dynamics: (1) the surplus dollars pouring into the rest of the world for yet further financial speculation and corporate takeovers; (2) the fact that central banks are obliged to recycle these dollar inflows to buy U.S. Treasury bonds to finance the federal U.S. budget deficit; and most important (but most suppressed in the U.S. media …”Actually, this post hits the nail on the head. There is now a rapidly growing risk of soaring inflation in some countries (esp. China) as they sit on excess dollars that have been generated. How they cope with this rising inflation will be an important step in the evolution of this credit crisis. But one thing is for SURE – they will be forced to act.PeteCA

PeteCAApril 11th, 2009 at 11:49 am

A Tale Of Two DepressionsI just came across this article by Eichengreen and O’Rourk comparing the current downturn with the 1929 Depression. This is a worthwhile read because the approach is based on academic study …A Tale Of 2 DepressionsMaybe someone posted this link before, but I don’t recall seeing it on this blog.Moral of the story … the current global economic downturn is potentially worse than the last great depression, and global trade is disintegrating faster than in 1929.Now look at it this way. Suppose you were a Baby Boomer, you’ve already taken significant losses on your retirement money, and now you read this article. Just how eager would you be to jump back into the market – until you see if all the trends plotted here actually reverse? So who’s going to be around to dump money into the current supposed “market turnaround”?PetecA

Jason BApril 11th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

Let me know if I have this right…quant funds are losing money because their models never accounted for ‘fat tail’ situations like we have now. They are the main source of fast money in the market. Money is being lost and withdrawn from the quant funds, depriving the market of liquidity. Suddenly no buyers, prices crash. Am I close?

PeteCAApril 11th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

By the way … regardless of how US authorities put a spin on the current situation – they must be aware of the real facts. They must have a “worst-case” analysis of the current economic scenario, and that would certainly point to a possible serious global depression. The Government never does just one analysis – they always look at possible outcomes. So don’t believe too much of what you read in the media – it only goes to show how much disinformation is being continuously fed to the financial blurbs.PeteCA

FEDupApril 11th, 2009 at 12:04 pm

Agree with your analysis. While McDonald’s and Walmart may be doing great; only government employees seem to have relative job security and continue spending along with those truly addicted consumers who will spend their last dime no matter what. Even so, things unfortunately will eventually get alot worse once the commercial backed real estate market starts crumbling and more businesses fail and those left with a job have to shoulder the pending increases in taxes and fees!

PeteCAApril 11th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

News: “BEIJING (AFP) – Measures taken by China to combat the global economic crisis are beginning to show results, state media Saturday quoted Premier Wen Jiabao as saying, ahead of first quarter results due next week. The economic indicators for the first quarter will be published next week but I can tell you that the measures we have taken are beginning to show their first results,” Wen said at a meeting with the Chinese community in Thailand, according to the China News Agency. In a video recording of Wen’s address, released on the website of Hong Kong’s Phoenix TV, Wen said that investment flows and demand had increased. He did not give precise figures. The difficult situation that some sectors and businesses were in is beginning to change… credits and loans are increasing rapidly,” he added. The economic situation is starting to change in a positive way, the situation is better than we had expected.”Special note to Premier Jiabao and the Chinese central bank. Recovery of your market is NOT due to the stimulus programs you announced. They would take much longer to have an effect. Early recovery is happening because the global market is anticipating some recovery in China’s situation. You are seeing global money flowing back into China because investors see some hope.Moral of the Story: China needs to go back to progressively loosening its peg on the US dollar. Slowly, but perceptibly. The worst thing you could do – is to make any more comments on a possible devaluation of the renminbi (yuan). If you want to see all this new economic hope vanish in a heartbeat, just consider devaluing your currency.PeteCA

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

Just a comment from an U.S. citizen who happens to have a “Health Savings Account” which is managed by Wells Fargo (bank). If Wells Fargo were allowed “to fail” then my family’s HSA would be wiped out. So perhaps there are those who would not think it a great political solution to have all those who have participated in HSAs to lose all the dollars they have contributed to their accounts. These accounts are not FDIC insured. (BTW, a health savings account is a tax-exempt trust account established for the purpose of paying a person’s qualified medical expenses provided the person is covered under a high-deductible health plan. Contributions are made with tax-free money and are used to pay or reimburse the person’s qualified medical expenses.)

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

Panetta rejects discipline for interrogatorsApril 10, 2009 (The Washington Times) — CIA Director Leon E. Panetta said Thursday that agency officers who conducted harsh interrogations under the previous administration should not be investigated or punished.Mr. Panetta, in a statement to employees, said he had sent a letter to Congress explaining the CIA’s current policy prohibiting so-called enhanced interrogation of terrorist suspects. He confirmed that the agency was abiding by President Obama’s order to shut down “black sites” — facilities abroad where suspects were detained and, according to some accounts tortured, under the Bush administration.http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/10/panetta-rejects-discipline-for-interrogators/__________________________As someone said, “How interesting. When Bush is president it’s called torture, when Obama is president it’s called enhanced interrogation techniques.”

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

Addition to prior post. BTW my husband and I have a HSA because we own a small business and it is an economical way for us to purchase health insurance. Most likely there are other small businesses out there in same boat.

PeterJBApril 11th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

Speaking of questions:”Will the government defend its citizens from financial predators, or turn the economy over to them? That is the question.”http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13055Ho hum

BrianApril 11th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

This is all BS.If foreign central banks are concerned about the dollar, they have other options. If they don’t want to give dollars to the US government to buy treasuries that can always. . .Buy GoldBuy OilBuy other countries’ currenciesBuy other countries’ treasuriesI hate hearing this “whoa is me” from foreign central banks. They are locked into one way of thinking, and they make their own bed. If any one of them had any foresight and, dare I say, balls, they could end this whole charade and get the global economy into a process of righting itself by finally ending the codependency. But no, they all have hive-mind, must put the dollars back into treasuries. Thus creating the bubble which will inevitably destroy the global economy.I have no sympathy for any of these foreign central banks, who are just as responsible as the US.–Brian

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

From BNET Technology Industry news…March 25, 2009“Tech Layoffs on Big Q1 Upswing, Far Outpacing Average” By Erik Sherman | March 25th, 2009When outsourcing consultancy Challenger, Gray & Christmas released its figures on job cuts in January and February, the numbers were depressing, with the two months figure almost double the same period in 2008 and close to the number of job cuts in the first six months of last year. But the picture is much worse for high tech, with layoffs in January and February almost quadruple those in the full first quarter of 2008 and far in excess of the portion of the economy that the sector represents.As I’ve mentioned before, according to numbers from Challenger, tech layoffs in 2008 were hardly a high water mark. From 2001 through 2008, last year was only the fifth highest number of job losses in the industry. But the numbers are rapidly starting to look progressively worse. The table below, put together for us by Challenger for an apples-to-apples comparison, shows the layoff patterns in electronics, computers, and telecom:**************Q1——Q2——Q3——Q4——–Sector TotalElectronics–5,928–4,073—6,884–25,177– 42,062Computer—4,840–10,429–28,733–20,858– 64,860Telecom—–6,577–19,142–2,652–20,277– 48,648Q Total——17,345–36,644–38,269–66,312– 155,570The job outlook has been deteriorating even faster this year. For January and February alone in 2009, the company has tracked 67,127 technology job losses. That is behind only retail with 72,272 job cuts and automotive, with 70,058.Even without March in place, the quarterly job losses are already at 387 percent of last year’s first quarter, or double the average…http://industry.bnet.com/technology/10001193/tech-layoffs-on-big-q1-upswing-far-outpacing-average/?tag=fa.ind4

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

TIME magazine headline:More Quickly Than It Began, The Banking Crisis Is OverFriday, Apr. 10, 2009http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1890560,00.html

kilgoresApril 11th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

What’s so interesting? Are you suggesting there is some double standard going on? If you do, you’d better re-read the post on which you were commenting.It was the Bush Administration that first regularly invoked the euphemism, ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ to obviate suggestions that what it was doing amounted to torture. That’s why the above post refers to “so-called enhanced interrogation.” It’s pointing out that “enhanced interrogation” is really just another term for torture.Also, you might note in the post above that these techniques, which the Bush administration declined to admit constituted torture (even though they clearly did), have been prohibited under the current policy of the CIA (i.e., under Obama and Panetta). The Bush Administration engaged in “enhanced interrogation techniques” that amounted to torture under international law. The Obama Administration has repudiated these techniques and doesn’t use them.Thank God we again have a President who has genuine respect for the rule of law and for fundamental moral standards of decency. That fact, after all, is primarily what distinguishes us from our enemies throughout the world. When we discard these things, we become no better than they.SWK

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

I have no sympathy for any of these foreign central banks, either. But what Hudson is saying, IMO, is not BS—for three reasons, 1) emerging nations still need US consumers, 2) the US military, and 3) the US dollar as world reserve currency.A principal reason for the US military in peacetime is to protect corporate resource locations around the globe.Why, for instance, are we seeing such an extraordinarily big show of American force concerning the container ship pirated in the Indian Ocean? When this case is closed, mark my words, we will see the US further established as a major military power in the Indian Ocean. Isn’t it interesting that few commercial vessels are U.S. flagships because of the ease of registration in such countries as Panama and Liberia? And this vessel, U.S. flagged and an all American crew is cutting through waters where the pirates operate?Why is the US military encircling the S.C.O.? Why did we bomb civilians in Kosovo? Are we in Afghanistan for the love of the Afghans? Or could it be for the use of Afghanistan as an oil pipeline route? Why are we fighting Russia for the loyalty of African nations? Why are we in Iraq?The US, from Wall Street to Pennsylvania Avenue, is engaging in economic war via military warfare, financial warfare, boycott warfare and media warfare – and that includes dropping deluges of fiat reserve currency on world markets.US financial oligarchs eschew international agreements to engage in economic terrorism and paper money fraud. When the shoe is on the other foot, when communist China assumes big bully superpower status run by greed and arms, and exploitation, when the US becomes a whimpering, exploited over-the-hill nation, tell me then that this financial extortion game is BS.And after stealing the whole global enchilada, do these international financiers share it with the American people? They do not; they keep it all for themselves. Is Chevron a great national benefactor? Absolutely not! It gives nuttin’ to nobody. How much, on the other hand, have Americans expended of their hard earned wealth on military protection for Chevron?

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

I think you are on the right track though I am not sure it’s because they are losing money – ZH is arguing that they are simply deleveraging thereby removing liquidity from the market.”the equity market has reached a point where the transactions on the margin are all that matter as the core volume/liquidity providers slowly disappear one by one through ongoing deleveraging.”The current massive campaign by the administration and the meida to engender investor confidence is staggering – but if ZH is correct it is on a foundation of sand – for the POTUS to be talking the markets higher along with his surrogates is a brave/risky strategy – and perhaps the only arrow left in the quiver.One final point is concerns I have heard expressed in the past on the highly leveraged ETFs and a potential implosion: ZH states”So what happens in a world where the very core of the capital markets system is gradually deleveraging to a point where maintaining a liquid and orderly market becomes impossible: large swings on low volume, massive bid-offer spreads, huge trading costs, inability to clear and numerous failed trades. When the quant deleveraging finally catches up with the market, the consequences will likely be unprecedented, with dramatic dislocations leading the market both higher and lower on record volatility. Furthermore, high convexity names such as double and triple negative ETFs, which are massively disbalanced with regard to underlying values after recent trading patterns, will see shifts which will make the November SRS jump to $250 seem like child’s play.

Octavio RichettaApril 11th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

Reminds me of the death of equities BW cover:-)BTW, WLI continues steady climb.http://www.businesscycle.com/news/press/1386/WLI Growth at 24-Week HighReutersApril 09, 2009(Reuters) – NEW YORK, A weekly measure of future U.S. economic growth continued to climb and its annualized growth rate reached a 24-week high, suggesting positive economic turnaround in the near future, a research group said on Friday.Still, the research group said its measure of current conditions sank to a record low, verifying that economic health is at its worst since World War Two.The Economic Cycle Research Institute, a New York-based independent forecasting group, said its Weekly Leading Index rose to 107.9 for the week ending April 3, from 106.6, which was revised lower from 106.7.The index’s annualized growth rate improved to negative 20.6 percent from the prior week’s rate of negative 22.2 percent.Still, ECRI’s Weekly Coincident Index — which measures current economic conditions — fell 8.8 percent to a record low, and the research group said this was its first objective evidence that this recession is the worst since World War Two.”With Weekly Leading Index growth recovering to a 24-week high, we are fast approaching an upturn in U.S. economic growth when the pace of recession will begin to slow” said Lakshman Achuthan, managing director at ECRI.”At the same time, growth in the Weekly Coincident Index fell to a record low…in the week ending April 3. This follows the earlier plunge in WLI growth and confirms that we are in the worst recession since World War II.”The weekly index rose due to lower jobless claims and interest rates, partly offset by lower stock prices, Achuthan said.

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

I commented above in the ZeroHedge article I posted that the administration and media have pulled out all the stops to talk this market higher – could it be that there are no other arrows left in their quiver? It is very suspicious that we have Wells Fargo pre-announcing and then Goldman talking of raising equity etc. etc. far to orchestrated -

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

El-Erian commented on the second derivative (“we are fast approaching an upturn in U.S. economic growth when the pace of recession will begin to slow” said Lakshman Achuthan”) in an interview last week suggesting that if you have just fallen off a cliff it is perhaps less relevant.

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

and this from Buiter last weekThe green shoots are weeds growing through the rubble in the ruins of the global economy“http://blogs.ft.com/maverecon/2009/04/the-green-shoots-are-weeds-growing-through-the-rubble-in-the-ruins-of-the-global-economy/

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

Up and Down Wall Street SATURDAY, APRIL 11, 2009MORE MELTDOWN by ALAN ABELSONQuoteBesides the pleasure of finding a CEO (CARL BASS ) with a sense of humor and, equally important, one who doesn’t suffer foolish questions gladly, the exchange struck us as symptomatic of the insatiable yearning of Wall Street, in general, and sell-side analysts, in particular, to uncover some sliver of bullishness beneath the dismal surface of the unvarnished truth.That touching tendency to mistake dross for gold has been much in evidence in this spirited stock-market rally, five weeks running and still kicking. And it has by no means been restricted to analysts; it has infected market strategists and portfolio managers, to say nothing of economists (which is about all one can say about them without resorting to invective).Even the most unfavorable news, from the relentless shrinkage in corporate earnings to the inexorable rise in unemployment, is all too often blithely shrugged off with the observation that “it wasn’t as bad as expected,” while neglecting to identify by whom. Nor does it seem even passing strange to the growing ranks of wishful bulls that banks that went begging to Uncle Sam for bailouts and were rewarded with billions have magically discovered, come the earnings reporting season, that, by gum, they’re suddenly remarkably solvent (or should we say, seemingly solvent; just disregard several trillion dollars’ worth of ugly stuff on their collective balance sheet, please).We realize, of course, that Washington is on the case. And we feel for the poor, anonymous soul charged with the task of almost daily sending aloft still another trial balloon to rescue the banks. But we suppose she or he does gain a measure of satisfaction from the fact that even if the balloon goes nowhere but poof, more often than not it provides a fresh fillip to the markets.Indeed, if anything, this whirlwind activity by the administration’s economic team, this profusion of blueprints for recovery, so many of which are rapidly discarded or revised or embroidered, by all rights should be giving widows and orphans the jitters rather than prompting them to take the plunge. For it smacks of confusion or panic or both.Believe us, we’re impressed by the vigor of the rally and it’s gone much further and faster than we expected. And we think those hearty types agile enough to have played the big bounce deserve a big pat on the back. That doesn’t mean, though, that we think it’s for real or sustainable.What would cause us to change our minds is some credible evidence that the dark forces that wrought this dreadful recession are starting to dissipate. Instead, it pains us to relate, we see rough going in the months ahead. And that suggests to these rheumy eyes a disappointed market resuming its skittish ways.http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_&mid=50161&tof=11&off=BACK

Octavio RichettaApril 11th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

Thanks for the reminder. Will download and read…BTW, Trade Balance data ugly for WW economy but good for US GDP. Latest from NT. I just don’t see gloom winning over cheer in the near future (And I haven’t even started to catchup with my reading:-) I will report back if I see anything that may change my views. ECRI guys are never early in calling turns but they are very accurate. I don’t know where the stock market will go* but, on the economy, I would ignore depression calls for the time being.http://www.northerntrust.com/popups/popup_noprint.html?http://web-xp2a-pws.ntrs.com/content//media/attachment/data/econ_research/0904/document/dd040909.pdf* One way to look at it is that we are not too far from the October lows (Remember those TARP days?), while the perception about the economy has improved a lot since then. Diz tells me this bear market rally, mirage bull, real bull, however you may wanna call it, may still have ample room to run.

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

the ZeroHedge (Tyler Durden) article was also published on RGE – he makes this comment in response to another comment”the implication in the article is not directionally lower: “dramatic dislocations leading the market both higher and lower on record volatility.” I emphasize the upcoming vol, meaning we could easily see irrational spikes in either direction. “http://www.rgemonitor.com/globalmacro-monitor/256367/#163655

DMHApril 11th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

You make some excellent and very interesting points worth expanding upon, Guest. In the back of my mind, I keep hearing the mantra, “Might makes right.” The USA is unquestionably the military might on this globe. The other mantra that keeps ringing in my ears is, “He who owns the gold, makes the rules.” The U.S. dollar is the world currency, and the U.S. military is unquestionably the world’s policeman. When these two realities are coupled with the power the U.S. consumer base has over the world economy, it is hard to believe that the U.S. is in any real danger of losing its spot as the top dog. There’s lots of gnashing of teeth in this country right now, but maybe there’s a huge overreaction underway. When push comes to shove, we, unlike China, can pack up our toys and go home and do our commerce amongst ourselves and our good neighbors and the new friends we can certainly make in the Western Hemisphere. It’s a nice fall back, if you think about it.

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

Chinese Bank Lending Surges in Sign Stimulus Is Driving Rebound in GrowthApril 11 (Bloomberg) — China’s new lending surged more than sixfold from a year earlier to a record 1.89 trillion yuan ($277 billion) in March, adding to signs that growth in the world’s third-biggest economy is gathering pace.http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aLyeIFnC8X1U&refer=home____________________and this from Pettis:Is Governor Zhou a closet Bernanke-ite?”That means that for the first three months of the year we have had loan increases of RMB1.6 trillion, RMB 1.1 trillion, and RMB 1.9 trillion. This amounts to RMB 4.6 trillion for the first quarter of 2009, compared to RMB 4.5 trillion for all of 2008. Notice to my students: learn more about how to resolve and restructure bad loans. This will be a great career option for you over the next few years.”http://mpettis.com/2009/04/is-governor-zhou-a-closet-bernanke-ite/

HayesApril 11th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

and this famous TIME cover circa 1999The Committee to Save the WorldGreenspan, Summers and Rubinhttp://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19990215,00.html

Miami Beach BumApril 11th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

It doesn’t take much to convince everyone the worst is over, and to suddenly trust the bankers.

IgnoramoUSApril 11th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

“The only people who seem not to be drawing this connection are the American mass media, and hence public.”All else aside, I firmly believe that neither the American mass media nor the average US citizen have the bandwidth or inclination to comprehend -much less articulate- these facts.

MedicApril 11th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

PJB -I don’t know if we’ve been thrown to the wolves – but the view from down here under the bus is not very good……….

MichelleApril 11th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

Censorship, plain and simple. My dad mentioned to me the other day that the Democrats learned to control the media decades ago, and it’s unfortunate that I (we) can’t rely on American-owned media outlets for the truth. This isn’t necessarily a slam against the Democratic party, just an observation that the media is being controlled. Welcome to Russia.

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

in support of Point B from antiwar.com:Trojan Horse | How Israeli Backdoor Technology Penetrated the US Government’s Telecom System and Compromised National Securityby Christopher Ketcham September 26, 2008Since the late 1990s, federal agents have reported systemic communications security breaches at the Department of Justice, FBI, DEA, the State Department, and the White House. Several of the alleged breaches, these agents say, can be traced to two hi-tech communications companies, Verint Inc. (formerly Comverse Infosys), and Amdocs Ltd., that respectively provide major wiretap and phone billing/record-keeping software contracts for the US government. Together, Verint and Amdocs form part of the backbone of the government’s domestic intelligence surveillance technology. Both companies are based in Israel – having arisen to prominence from that country’s cornering of the information technology market – and are heavily funded by the Israeli government, with connections to the Israeli military and Israeli intelligence (both companies have a long history of board memberships dominated by current and former Israeli military and intelligence officers). Verint is considered the world leader in “electronic interception” and hence an ideal private sector candidate for wiretap outsourcing. Amdocs is the world’s largest billing service for telecommunications, with some $2.8 billion in revenues in 2007, offices worldwide, and clients that include the top 25 phone companies in the United States that together handle 90 percent of all call traffic among US residents. The companies’ operations, sources suggest, have been infiltrated by freelance spies exploiting encrypted trapdoors in Verint/Amdocs technology and gathering data on Americans for transfer to Israeli intelligence and other willing customers (particularly organized crime). “The fact of the vulnerability of our telecom backbone is indisputable,” says a high level US intelligence officer who has monitored the fears among federal agents. “How it came to pass, why nothing has been done, who has done what – these are the incendiary questions.” If the allegations are true, the electronic communications gathered up by the NSA and other US intelligence agencies might be falling into the hands of a foreign government. Reviewing the available evidence, Robert David Steele, a former CIA case officer and today one of the foremost international proponents for “public intelligence in the public interest,” tells me that “Israeli penetration of the entire US telecommunications system means that NSA’s warrantless wiretapping actually means Israeli warrantless wiretapping…”http://www.antiwar.com/orig/ketcham.php?articleid=13506Also…ECHELON has been claimed as “the largest electronic spy network in history”. In essence it is an information sharing mechanism that involves the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. It encompasses telecommunications, in particular satellite and microwave traffic. Critics have characterised it as surveilling up to 3 billion communications per day, including personal, business and government voice calls, faxes, email, SMS telephone calls, faxes and other data transfers. Many of those communications take place outside the borders of the ECHELON states; some involve governments and nationals of friendly states.Information is electronically sifted, using different categories (such as the recipient or keywords), with some messages undergoing detailed analysis. It is likely that some commercially-sensitive information is forwarded from national security agencies to policymakers and to contacts in leading corporations, for example to assist in trade negotiations.As the following page notes, the effectiveness of ECHELON is unknown: there are few benchmarks for determining its effectiveness or comparing costs. As an essentially secret activity it has proved resistant to scrutiny by legislatures. It is likely to increase in scope and pervasiveness as policymakers rely on ICT as a silver bullet to solve intractable political and military problems.http://www.caslon.com.au/echelonnote.htmhttp://www.newsfollowup.com/dom_spy_agncy.htm#Echelonetc…

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

The rest of the story from Alan Abelson in Barron’s (April 13) — “More Mortgage Meltdown”BACK IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR, WE RAMBLED on about a piece on housing by T2 Partners, a New York money-management firm. The report weighed a ton, but its heft was made more than palatable by a profusion of easily accessible bold-face tables and charts and a lucid text happily free of equivocation. We waxed enthusiastic about the analysis (and no, we hadn’t been drinking). It was, of course, quite bearish.Well, the T2 folks recently issued a follow-up to that prescient analysis, again festooned with nifty graphics and graced with straight-from-the-shoulder narration. They’re still bearish and still, we think, on the money. That original report, incidentally, has blossomed into a book by Whitney Tilson and Glenn Tongue, who run T2 (you’ll never guess how they got the name for their firm); the book is called More Mortgage Meltdown and is slated to be published next month (end of public-service announcement).In their latest tome, the T2 pair begin with a crisp summary of why and how housing collapsed, in the process wreaking havoc on both the credit market and the economy. Among the usual culprits, most of which by now have had the cruel harsh spotlight of publicity turned mercilessly on them, Wall Street comes in for special mention and, in particular, its critical role in disseminating collateralized debt obligations and asset-backed securities, or — as they’re respectively, if no longer respectfully, known — CDOs and ABSs.Those structured monsters, note Tilson and Tongue, were a “big driver” of the surge in financial outfits’ increasingly bloated profits. To produce ABSs and CDOs, Wall Street needed “a lot of loan product,” of which mortgages proved a bountiful source. It’s unfortunately quite simple to generate ever-higher volumes of mortgages. All you need do is lend at “higher loan-to-value ratios, with ultra-low teaser rates, to uncreditworthy borrowers, and don’t bother to verify their income and assets.”The only catch is that the chances of such a mortgage being paid off are just about nil, a trifling caveat that bothered neither lenders nor pushers one whit. The result of that cavalier approach, as we all have reason to lament, in the endhas been anything but happy: Today, mortgages securitized by Wall Street represent 16% of all mortgages, but a staggering 62% of seriously delinquent mortgages.As for home prices, the T2 duo reckon, the unbroken monthly decline since they peaked in July 2006 will continue to make buyers hesitant and sellers desperate, while the “tsunami of foreclosures” will maintain the huge imbalance of supply over demand. In January, they point out, distressed sales accounted for a formidable 45% of all existing home sales and, they predict, there will be millions more foreclosures over the next few years.They expect housing prices to decline 45%-50% from their peak (currently, prices are down 32%) before bottoming in mid-2010. They warn that the huge overhang of unsold houses and the likelihood that sellers will come out of the woodwork at the first sign of a turn argues against a quick or vigorous rebound in prices. Nor is the economy likely to provide a tailwind, since T2 anticipates it will contract the rest of this year, stagnate next year and grow tepidly for some years after that.The first stage of the mortgage bust featured defaulting subprime loans and their risky kin, so-called Alt-A loans. Together with an additional messy mass of Alt-A loans, the next phase will be paced by defaulting option adjustable-rate mortgages, jumbo prime loans, prime loans and home-equity lines of credit.All told, Tilson and Tongue estimate losses suffered by financial companies from mortgage loans, further swelled by nonresidential feckless lending, will run between $2.1 trillion and $3.8 trillion; less than half of that fearsome total has been realized. Which is why, they contend, we’re only “in the middle innings of an enormous wave of defaults, foreclosures and auctions.”We don’t want to leave you with the impression that the T2 guys are cranky old perma-bears. They aren’t. At the end of their report they point out that “the stocks of some of the greatest businesses, with strong balance sheets and dominant competitive positions, are trading at their cheapest levels in years.” Nothing wrong with the companies themselves, they believe; rather, the stocks got beat up mostly because of the cruddy market and soft economy. Victims, as it were, of the bearish trends.The names they like that fall into that not exactly overly crowded category are familiar enough: Coca-Cola , McDonald’s , Wal-Mart , Altria , ExxonMobil , Johnson & Johnson and Microsoft . That doesn’t exhaust their portfolio picks, but those are the ones they obviously think are best suited to ride out any resurgence of the bear market.http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_&mid=50161&tof=11&off=

g AntonApril 11th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

I wonder if these loss estimates include current and future rent losses on properties that are now unrentable, and much of this property is mortgaged to the hilt.

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

Be Careful What You Wish Forby Peter SchiffApril 11, 2009 — Apart from the obvious financial distress that the current economic crisis has inflicted on most Americans, perhaps one of the more irksome byproducts of the meltdown has been the inescapability of clueless economic blather. It’s bad enough when so-called economists serve up the same Keynesian nonsense that has led us down the current cul-de-sac in the first place. At least those people have some incidental knowledge, however deeply flawed, of basic economic concepts. It’s far worse when political pundits, whose understanding of economics typically comes from Treasury Department talking points, hold forth as if they really know what is going on.Last weekend I happened to watch the McLaughlin Group, a mainstay of Sunday morning political programs, which included a discussion that typified the lack of economic common sense that is so pervasive in our country. The program’s anchor John McLaughlin, undoubtedly an expert in political maneuvering and Washington horse-trading, offered viewers his assessment of the global economic landscape. McLaughlin identified China, Germany, and Japan as being prime offenders in the global economic meltdown. Their “offense” was that they ran persistent trade surpluses, had savings rates that were “far too high” and consumption rates that were “far too low.” McLaughlin identified these sins as responsible for the global economic imbalances. He urged the governments of those countries to adopt policies that would encourage their consumers to borrow and spend more. Exactly which school of economic thought informed his assessment is not entirely clear.In the first place, if the creditor nations of the world actually follow Mr. McLaughlin’s advice and become borrowers themselves, from just where does Mr. McLaughlin believe the money will come? These countries already lend to America. Does he think that they also have enough leftover to lend to themselves? Does he believe that America, which is tens of trillions of dollars in debt, has enough excess savings to lend? Perhaps he’s eyeing the Martians’ accumulated savings? The point is: the entire world cannot borrow at the same time. Someone has to do the lending. The only reason Americans are able to borrow so much is that those “offending nations” are loaning us the money.Mr. McLaughlin apparently believes that if those countries simply adopted policies to encourage more consumption, America would then be able to export more products. Just what American-made products does he expect the Chinese to buy? If China did spend more, which they ultimately will, they would simply buy more of their own products that they currently ship to us. After all, if Americans are not buying American-made products, why would the Chinese? In most cases, it’s not that consumers do not want to buy American products; it’s just that there are so few American-made products that are competitive in the global marketplace.One guest on the panel did try to correct Mr. McLaughlin by suggesting that Americans needed to save more and spend less, but he was quickly shot down. Why should we spend less, McLaughlin snapped, when they could shoulder some of the burden by spending more? The inference here is that we are doing our part by lugging home shopping carts full of consumer goods, while they are getting off easy by spending their days in muggy factories making the goods!What he fails to understand is that nothing can be bought that is not first produced. We cannot all just decide to spend our troubles away. It is only because the “offending nations” are producing surplus goods (meaning more goods than they are themselves consuming) that those goods are available to Americans. In McLaughlin’s America, and indeed Obama’s, we would all be standing around empty shelves with wheelbarrows full of worthless cash.If the creditor countries are indeed the offenders, it is only in the sense that they have enabled us to live beyond our means and have facilitated the growth of our phony economy. However if they do as Mr. McLaughlin suggests, the immediate impact on the American economy will be much different than what he expects: the dollar will collapse, both consumer prices and interest rates will rise sharply, and the current recession will deepen. Rather than holding us back, foreign creditors have actually been propping us up. As for Mr. McLaughlin, he should stick to his strong suit: the dissection of political posturing. To presume a level of economic understanding by listening to self-interested politicians and academics is to invite catastrophe.Peter Schiff is president of Euro Pacific Capital and author of The Little Book of Bull Moves in Bear Markets and Crash Proof: How to Profit from the Coming Economic Collapse.http://www.lewrockwell.com/schiff/schiff14.html

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

For another good read from DollarCollaps.com, the “Best Quotes of March 2009″.Ty Andros, TedbitsCliff Droke, Financial SenseTom Engelhardt, American Empire ProjectMarc Faber, Gloom, Boom & Doom ReportDavid Galland, Casey ResearchOliver Garret, Casey ResearchPeter Grandich, The Grandich LetterEric Janszen, iTulipSimon Johnson, Atlantic MonthlyGreg McCoach, Mining SpeculatorDoug Noland, Prudent BearSascha Opel, Orsus Consult GmbHCongressman Ron PaulMichael S. Rozeff, LewRockwell.comPeter Schiff, Euro Pacific CapitalJames Quinn, Burning PlatformMike Taibbi, Rolling StoneAxel Weber, European Central Bankhttp://www.dollarcollapse.com/iNP/view.asp?ID=93Side note: Real Estate Sales in San Diego are up significantly. Question is, how high will unemployment go, and when will interest rates rise?hlowe

GuestApril 11th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

As for rental properties held by individuals, whose tenants have moved on and with no prospects in sight, I’d say it doesn’t until the property goes into the foreclosure pile. Let us say that no one in government statistics, except the IRS, is interested in landlord losses or how much savers have lost to inflation on their CDs that are “earning” less than the inflated price of chicken feed. In Bernanke banker vernacular, “save” is a four-letter word. Perhaps “rent” is too. As for “buy”….

jugglingcdosApril 12th, 2009 at 12:26 am

hmmm if japan will suffer future consequencesso how about US?http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=avPPeCPpuXr4&refer=economyAso’s Stimulus Plan May Spur Economy at ‘Massive’ Future Costexcerpt:-April 11 (Bloomberg) — Japan’s record 15.4 trillion ($153 billion) stimulus package may give a short-term boost to the nation’s economy, while leaving it saddled with a debt burden that will smother future growth, economists said.“The stimulus will probably prevent Japan from falling apart in the short term, but it will leave a massive bill for the future,” said Hiromichi Shirakawa, chief economist at Credit Suisse Group AG in Tokyo. “The package doesn’t do anything to promote a sustainable economic recovery.

AnonymousApril 12th, 2009 at 1:15 am

McLaughlin should learn some common sense! On this planet, how can a debtor (USA) point his finger on his biggest creditors(China and Japan) telling them what to do? Does McLaughlin wish the Chinese and Japanese to dump all their US treasury and to cash out in dollar such that the Chinese and Japanese have the money to spend in McLaughlin’s fashion!Why doesn’t McLaughlin go back to University to take economics 101?

CHRIS DAVISApril 12th, 2009 at 1:50 am

PeteCA: why a “rapidly growing risk of soaring inflation” amidst one of the largest output gaps to occur postwar??

CHRIS DAVISApril 12th, 2009 at 1:59 am

The cited article makes no differentiation between saver/exporter and spender/importer economies,with the irony being that the saver/exporter economies are more negatively leveraged to the shrinkage in trade than the spender/importers. As Japan’s , China’s and Germany’s exports collapse, less American workers are laid off than would have been the case had America run a balanced trade account, which it did not. So as American consumers increase their savings, because of the imbalance in trade, an inordinate amount of exporter nation employees are made redundant.

CHRIS DAVISApril 12th, 2009 at 2:12 am

Mon cher kilgores,I disticntly fail to remember anyone interviewing the individuals leaping to their deaths, their bodies in flames, from the twin towers about their views on the delicate handling of non-combattants accused of terrorist attacks against innocent civilians. Did you, perhaps, hang glide down along the victims, microphone in hand, requesting a frank opinion? No?Would this president have firebombed Dresden, Hanover, Munich, Berlin and Tokyo in WW II?? Would he have nuked Nagasaki and Hiroshima?? What do you think, kilgores?? Better to go soft, huh? Would this president have ordered German troops disguised as American troops to be shot on sight?Maybe we should have booked each one and given them a separate trial at Harvard, huh? No?Let’s see how “The One” handles the pirates & the kidnapped American ship captain. I bet he caves.

CHRIS DAVISApril 12th, 2009 at 2:23 am

No, you guys need to back and take course in macroeconomics: McLaughlin IS RIGHT. The saver/exporter nations stupidly overleveraged their economies to foreign, rather than domestic consumption, so when American consumers reversed course, stopped spending and started saving, the exporters lost big, because they had relativley little domestic demand to take up the slack.Go to the back of the class.

CHRIS DAVISApril 12th, 2009 at 2:33 am

yield curve has flipped, making entire sector cash flow at $220bn annual rate with earn out periods of approx five years for players such as GE Finance. Welcome to Japan.

CHRIS DAVISApril 12th, 2009 at 2:37 am

PeteCA,you need to differentiate between “spent” and “swapped”. Money Fed has “spent” on commercial paper is actually an asset swap, not an expenditure..

wetaApril 12th, 2009 at 5:13 am

Cheap foreign vessel regitration and cheaper non-US labour dictates that few ships are in fact US flagged and manned. Seems strange to me that this particular vessel just happens to be in this situation at this time. Stranger that this is the only skipper to make the ultimate sacrifice in a media driven sensationalist world. I expect to see this “Captain” “die”. The media price for US consolidation of power in the Indian Ocean.As for 9/11 the evidence that this was NOT an inside job is unconvincing. Typical Straussian tactics.The firebombing was in fact done during late phase developments and were tactically completely unnecessary-more a psychologic retaliation-public revenge.Nagasaki and Hiroshima had more to do with “legitimised” weapon testing than with bringing an already beaten Japan to it’s knees.Better questions would be:What do “Colateral Damage” and “Friendly Fire” really mean in US tactical definition?Why was Pearl Harbour really allowed to happen?What roles did “Executive Order 11110″ and creation of “United States Notes” have in the death of JFK?

HubbsApril 12th, 2009 at 7:30 am

The point about sellers coming out of the woodwork at the first sign of a housing rebound suggests that even if sales increase, the prices will remain subdued. Just like unemployment numbers may hide the prevalence of the unemployed/underemployed, the housing numbers do not reflect homeowners who would like to sell their homes but can’t or won’t, and therefore have given up listing them all together.

Octavio RichettaApril 12th, 2009 at 8:04 am

Shillings letter opens with a detailed analysis/history of the US markets. Some of the charts can be found here:http://www.churchillmanagement.com/fdownload.aspx?r=2&q=58According to him, we entered a secular bear market in 2000 (we all know this) and the housing bubble resulted in the “mirage” bull market that ended in late 2007 but we are still within that secular bear that started in 2000. The question is when will it end?With the US consumer now starting to save (He thinks the savings rate will increase 1%/year up until the former 12%) He sees GDP growth at around 2% instead of the former 3%. This, of course, has implications for stocks future prospects since earnings are linked to GDP. So he thinks PE, the speculative, in stock returns will continue to decline.So no surprise, Shilling the ultimate permabear in stocks continues to be nearish on stocks. He sees cyclycal bull markets within the continued secular bear as getting shorter and shallower.I really don’t have a long-term view on stock prices at this point. I just don’t care about the long run since I don’t believe in the “stocks for the lung run” Siegel BS. But I do believe that stocks now just at the October 2008 lows may still have some run to run.Please note that the stuff above are well known long-held public views from Shilling that have even appeared in TechTicker, so no copyright infringement here.On the economy… I will start reading the second half of the letter now…

Octavio RichettaApril 12th, 2009 at 8:15 am

On the economy, nothing new in this front either. He continues to see the current recession as being deeper and longer (at least one more year) than most forecasters. He also doesn’t care about Ben and his helicopters; he sees chronic deflation settling in, and continued bursting of the housing and commodity bubbles, which implies a continued bear market in stocks.While I do agree with his long term view; short/medium term, Shilling views are most definitely not what market participants are seeing. As I have said many times before, Diz super smart guys are always way too early. Shilling started forecasting the current recession back in 2004:-)

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 9:08 am

You can’t plot economics without plotting politics–”you can’t have one without the other.” The policies of the politicians and the bankers are impoverishing the wealth and freedom of Americans. I find Taibbi’s quote telling:Mike Taibbi, Rolling StoneThe mistake most people make in looking at the financial crisis is thinking of it in terms of money, a habit that might lead you to look at the unfolding mess as a huge bonus-killing downer for the Wall Street class. But if you look at it in purely Machiavellian terms, what you see is a colossal power grab that threatens to turn the federal government into a kind of giant Enron — a huge, impenetrable black box filled with self-dealing insiders whose scheme is the securing of individual profits at the expense of an ocean of unwitting involuntary shareholders, previously known as taxpayers.

HayesApril 12th, 2009 at 9:22 am

the latest from RitholtzBear Market Rally ?http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/04/bear-market-rally-4/

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 9:22 am

To put the San Diego real estate market into a larger context in California … Home sales are up across California 100.8 percent, but median price has decreased.This lead story April 1 in the San Francisco Chronicle Business section:THE ECONOMY IN TURMOILS.F., U.S. home prices in free fallU.S. home values continued their free fall in the January, with prices in the San Francisco area among the hardest hit, according to a closely watched real estate index released Tuesday.“Prices are going down as fast or faster than they were last month, last quarter and last year,” said David Blitzer, chairman of the index committee at Standard & Poor’s, which issues the S&P Case-Shiller home price index. “It’s getting harder and harder to find some new way to say it’s really grim and dismal.”All 20 metropolitan regions tracked by the index showed price declines compared with January 2008, while 13 of them clocked record annual declines. Combined, the 20 regions had a one-year plunged of 19 percent in home values and a one-month decline of 2.8 percent from December to January.The three worst-performing regions were Phoenix, down 35 percent compared with a year ago; Las Vegas, down 32.5 percent; and San Francisco, down 32.4 percent.

HayesApril 12th, 2009 at 9:26 am

The Economy’s ‘Green Shoots,’ Real or Imagined (via Ritholtz)comments in this NY Times article by* Mark Thoma, economist, University of Oregon* Tyler Cowen, economist, George Mason University* Roger Altman, former deputy Treasury secretary* James K. Galbraith, economist, University of Texas* Charles A. Lewis, former investment bankerhttp://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/the-economys-green-shoots-real-or-imagined/

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 9:28 am

Agree. Think about the political consequences of a real capitulation in 2010-2011. Obama may be a one-term president. Dems could be outnumbered in Congress and the pendulum may swing back to the right without really having gone to the left.

Pecos BankerApril 12th, 2009 at 10:34 am

Pop Quiz time, folks:You throw a ball straight up in the air. Mark the following true or false:a) The first derivative starts out positive but goes to zero at the point the ball reaches maximimum height.b) The second derivative is positive when the ball is going up and negative when the ball descends.c) The second derivative is always negative, even when the ball is ascending.d) The economy will continue to decline with a positive second derivative as long as the first derivative is negative.

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 10:39 am

Why worry about falling tax receipts when you can sell treasury bonds to Ben Bernanke? We can all stop paying taxes. Obama will repeal the laws of economics and Ben will send the helicopters. Heaven will descend on Earth and Larry Kudlow will declare the end of all recessions. Dow will be 360,000 and America will once again prove that it is the land of the unlimited opportunities.

Octavio RichettaApril 12th, 2009 at 11:13 am

The first derivative of a quantity is the instantaneous rate of change for that quantity. So, the first derivative of distance traveled, d, is the velocity, v. The instantaneous rate of change (first derivative) of velocity is acceleration, a.The second derivative of a quantity is the rate of change of the rate of change. So, acceleation, a, is the second derivative of distance traveled, d.The acceleration resulting from the force of gravity is called g, 9.8 meters per second. When one trows a ball up vertically it gets released from one’s hand at an initial speed Vo but the only force acting on it after it leaves your hand is gravity.To answer question a-c a reasonable assumption is that the quantity in question is distance traveled.a) True. If one assumes velocity going up is positive. The initial velicity Vo is positive and it becomes 0 at the top.b)is false but c) is true. The second derivative is the acceleration of gravity which is constant and negative -9.8 m/s at all times.d)by the economy you must mean accumulated GDP for the year. The rate of change in GDP(first derivative) was negative for Q4’08 and it will be negative for Q1’09. A positive second derivative would mean that the economic decline is decelerating. So Even if the rate of decline is decelarating, the economy will continue to decline as long as the first derivative is negative. So d) is TRUE

HayesApril 12th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

More from ZeroHedge on Quants and market anomalies that could portend an interesting and extremely volatile time for the markets in the coming days.First article The Incredibly Shrinking Market Liquidity, Or The Upcoming Black Swan Of Black Swans (link was posted above – here it is again http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/04/incredibly-shrinking-market-liquidity.html)current articleQuantology Revisited: The Negative Convexity Implications Of Delta-Hedging”But a simplified attempt: we have crossed into territory where the negative convexity consequences of delta hedging will keep on pushing the market in a straight line in whatever direction it is moving until we see a violent reversal and the delta hedge breaks due to lack of vol to “feed it”, which will be, in the parlance of our times, the market’s epic fail.”http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/04/quantology-revisited-negative-convexity.html

talmud scholarApril 12th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

I guess you really haven’t listened to his comments on TV and elsewhere. He specifically did issue mkt calls such as around 6500- that “the mkt may rally considerably and then move to NEW lows later this year and that housing had another 20% to fall this year.”" suggest to check the archives

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

Remember how we didn’t have to worry about Social Security now because payments from the program wouldn’t exceed revenue for another decade or more? Well, the CBO has revised its estimates. It’s still projecting a tiny surplus for next year–tiny–but Chris Martenson thinks those estimates will quickly be revised down:[I]t was only last year that I was writing about the impeding fiscal calamity that was awaiting us all in 2017 when the outlays for Social Security were slated to exactly match receipts. Now that date could be as early as 2010, apparently.In the chart above (source), I want you to note the extreme deterioration in surplus funds between the 2008 and 2009 forecasts. Can you spot the trend?Here’s a prediction – these too will be revised to the worse in about 6 months. I base this prediction on my belief that more people will opt for retirement than are currently projected and that entitlement program tax receipts will be below current projections. Also, nearly every prediction by the CBO has been revised to the worse over the past year so I am “riding the trend” with this prediction.In the projections for the table above, the CBO has assumed no cost of living adjustments (COLAs) in 2010, 2011, or 2012 and a return to economic growth next year. If either of those assumptions proves wrong, the table above gets smoked to the downside. I give that a better than 90% chance of happening.This, of course, will have implications far beyond the Social Security system.The Social Security “trust fund,” you’ll recall, isn’t a trust fund at all. It’s just another source of annual government financing and a future liability. Today’s receipts are used to pay current payments to retirees and, in the case of a surplus, whatever else the government is spending money on. As the Social Security surplus shrinks, therefore, the government loses a source of funding. If it wants to keep spending at its planned rate, it therefore has to borrow the difference.When Social Security goes into deficit, meanwhile, the government will have to borrow even more money to pay current SS recipients. Chris Martenson:From a budget-busting perspective, last year where the US government had a $73 billion Social Security surplus to spend, this year it will be a paltry $16 billion and next year it will be a number indistinguishable from zero. It is hard to overstate the importance of this shift.This means several things. Instead of $703 billion coming in over the next 10 years, the current (overly optimistic) projection calls for only $83 billion. This means at least another $620 billion in fresh borrowing will have to occur.More importantly, this means that the United States eventual date with bankruptcy has been moved forward by about 8 years or so. It also means that instead of being some future problem, a few administrations down the road, it is a near certainty that the current administration will have to confront some very difficult funding decisions that will be forced by the inability to borrow enough to pay for everything.http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-the-social-security-bomb-2009-4

HayesApril 12th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

a good companion article just posted at ZHThe break out:$9.7 Trillion in bailouts$11 Trillion in national debt$17 Trillion in corporate/financial debt, and $13.8 Trillion in household debt$1 Trillion in credit card debt$10.5 Trillion in mortgages$52 Trillion in social security/medicare obligationshttp://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/04/observations-on-us-debt.html

amacflyApril 12th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

Lord help us, the right wing are such corrupt, evil and hideous corporate and banking lobby stooges that we will all get really and royally shafted. However this is exactly the outcome being predicted by the Elliot’s and the Socio-economicists, so I’m sad to say I think you’re right. Fascism here we come.

ORApril 12th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

The units of acceleration above are wrong. The units for distance are m (meters). The units for speed are m/s (meters/second), since speed is the rate of change of distance traveled. And, the units for acceleration are m/(s^2), since acceleration es the rate of change of speed.

HayesApril 12th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

Obama Bank Fix “Worse Than A Lie” — Former Regulator BlackApril 12″We continue to believe the Obama administration’s approach to the banking crisis has been warped by its personal relationships with Wall Street.” …http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-g-2009-4and this from BloombergObama Stakes His Fortunes on Failed Banksters: Jonathan WeilApril 9 (Bloomberg) — Now that we have a rough idea how President Barack Obama and his lieutenants plan to prop up insolvent financial institutions using taxpayers’ money, we’re left with a more difficult question: Why?Why doesn’t the Obama administration force insolvent banks and insurance companies to come clean about their losses first? It’s the “why” that’s so vexing. The who, what, when, and how are mere details, by comparison. …http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aNMQDysdnKRcand this from the Boston GlobeBy Elizabeth WarrenApril 12, 2009Keeping tabs on the bailout”Until last year, Harvard Law School professor Elizabeth Warren was perhaps best known for her writing on bankruptcy and consumer finance. But last fall, she was appointed chair of a newly created Congressional Oversight Panel, which is charged with keeping tabs on the $700 billion bailout of the financial sector – an effort formally known as the Troubled Assets Relief Program. Warren was recently interviewed by Globe deputy editorial page editor Dante Ramos, who prepared the following edited excerpts”…http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2009/04/12/keeping_tabs_on_the_bailout/

PeteCAApril 12th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

The Chinese are aiming to re-expand their exports. Let’s suppose they diversify to Japan, UK, Europe, Russia, Middle East etc. Both Japan and UK are moving heavily towards quantitative easing (or are already there). A lot of other countries also have money supplies that are expanding rapidly too. So unless the yuan is appreciates relative to all these currencies, the Chinese still wind up having to sterilize excess currency. As far as I can see, they are going to continue to have headaches until they release the peg on their currency. I think this is a generic problem that the Chinese will have so long as they are a primary global producer (low wages) and other countries are willing to boost their money supplies to try to stimulate production.PeteCA

Octavio RichettaApril 12th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

Will overly optimistic Goldilocks be shot down once again? It would appear that Goldilocks, once again, are being too optimistic. I would have to do the research to see it this point is valid but I have no time now. My sense is the positive momentum will carry longer than most bears think, but we may be “back to square one” sooner than Dough Kass thinks. Keep your eyes open!

HayesApril 12th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

and this link related to the above themeBarron’sSATURDAY, APRIL 11, 2009

AN INTERVIEW WITH WILLIAM BLACK: The current bank scandal dwarfs the 1980s savings-and-loan crisis — and could destroy the Obama presidency.WILLIAM BLACK CALLS THEM AS HE SEES THEM, which is why we enjoy talking with him. Black, 57 years old, was a deputy director at the former Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corp. during the thrift crisis of the 1980s, and now serves as an associate professor, teaching economics and law at the University of Missouri, Kansas City. At FSLIC, a government agency that insured S&L deposits, Black prevailed in showdowns with the powerful Democratic Speaker of the House, Jim Wright, and helped identify the infamous Keating Five, a group of U.S. senators (including Sen. John McCain, the Arizona Republican who lost his bid for the presidency in 2008) who tried to quash his attempt to close Charles Keating’s Lincoln Savings & Loan. Wright eventually resigned amid unrelated ethics charges, and the senators were reprimanded for poor judgment. Keating went to jail for securities fraud.For Black’s provocative thoughts on the current financial crisis, read on.Barron’s: Just how serious is this credit crisis? What is at stake here for the American taxpayer?Black: Mopping up the savings-and-loan crisis cost $150 billion; this current crisis will probably cost a multiple of that. The scale of fraud is immense. This whole bank scandal makes Teapot Dome [of the 1920s] look like some kid’s doll set. Unless the current administration changes course pretty drastically, the scandal will destroy Barack Obama’s presidency. The Bush administration was even worse. But they are out of town. This will destroy Obama’s administration, both economically and in terms of integrity.So you are saying Democrats as well as Republicans share the blame? No one can claim the high ground?We have failed bankers giving advice to failed regulators on how to deal with failed assets. How can it result in anything but failure? If they are going to get any truthful investigation, the Democrats picked the wrong financial team. Tim Geithner, the current Secretary of the Treasury, and Larry Summers, chairman of the National Economic Council, were important architects of the problems. Geithner especially represents a failed regulator, having presided over the bailouts of major New York banks.So you aren’t a fan of the recently announced plan for the government to back private purchases of the toxic assets?It is worse than a lie. Geithner has appropriated the language of his critics and of the forthright to support dishonesty. That is what’s so appalling — numbering himself among those who convey tough medicine when he is really pandering to the interests of a select group of banks who are on a first-name basis with Washington politicians.The current law mandates prompt corrective action, which means speedy resolution of insolvencies. He is flouting the law, in naked violation, in order to pursue the kind of favoritism that the law was designed to prevent. He has introduced the concept of capital insurance, essentially turning the U.S. taxpayer into the sucker who is going to pay for everything. He chose this path because he knew Congress would never authorize a bailout based on crony capitalism.Geithner is mistaken when he talks about making deeply unpopular moves. Such stiff resolve to put the major banks in receivership would be appreciated in every state but Connecticut and New York. His use of language like “legacy assets” — and channeling the worst aspects of Milton Friedman — is positively Orwellian. Extreme conservatives wrongly assume that the government can’t do anything right. And they wrongly assume that the market will ultimately lead to correct actions. If cheaters prosper, cheaters will dominate. It is like Gresham’s law: Bad money drives out the good. Well, bad behavior drives out good behavior, without good enforcement.His plan essentially perpetuates zombie banks by mispricing toxic assets that were mispriced to the borrower and mispriced by the lender, and which only served the unfaithful lending agent.We already know from the real costs — through the cleanups of IndyMac, Bear Stearns, and Lehman — that the losses will be roughly 50 to 80 cents on the dollar. The last thing we need is a further drain on our resources and subsidies by promoting this toxic-asset market. By promoting this notion of too-big-to-fail, we are allowing a pernicious influence to remain in Washington. The truth has a resonance to it. The folks know they are being lied to.I keep asking myself, what would we do in other avenues of life? What if every time we had a plane crash we said: ‘It might be divisive to investigate. We want to be forward-looking.’ Nobody would fly. It would be a disaster.We know that with planes, every time there is an accident, we look intensively, without the interference of politics. That is why we have such a safe industry.Summarize the problem as best you can for Barron’s readers.With most of America’s biggest banks insolvent, you have, in essence, a multitrillion dollar cover-up by publicly traded entities, which amounts to felony securities fraud on a massive scale.These firms will ultimately have to be forced into receivership, the management and boards stripped of office, title, and compensation. First there needs to be a clearing of the air — a Pecora-style fact-finding mission conducted without fear or favor. [Ferdinand Pecora was an assistant district attorney from New York who investigated Wall Street practices in the 1930s.] Then, we need to gear up to pursue criminal cases. Two years after the market collapsed, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has one-fourth of the resources that the agency used during the savings-and-loan crisis. And the current crisis is 10 times as large.There need to be major task forces set up, like there were in the thrift crisis. Right now, things don’t look good. We are using taxpayer money via AIG to secretly bail out European banks like Société Générale, Deutsche Bank, and UBS — and even our own Goldman Sachs. To me, the single most obscene act of this scandal has been providing billions in taxpayer money via AIG to secretly bail out UBS in Switzerland, while we were simultaneously prosecuting the bank for tax fraud. The second most obscene: Goldman receiving almost $13 billion in AIG counterparty payments after advising Geithner, president of the New York Fed, and then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, former Goldman Sachs honcho, on the AIG government takeover — and also receiving government bailout loans.What, then, is staying the federal government’s hand? Have the banks become too difficult or complex to regulate?The government is reluctant to admit the depth of the problem, because to do so would force it to put some of America’s biggest financial institutions into receivership. The people running these banks are some of the most well-connected in Washington, with easy access to legislators. Prompt corrective action is what is needed, and mandated in the law. And that is precisely what isn’t happening.The savings-and-loan crisis showed that, too often, the regulators became too close to the industry, and run interference for friends by hiding the problems.Can you explain your idea of control fraud, and how it applies to the current banking and the earlier thrift crisis?Control fraud is when a seemingly legitimate corporation uses its power as a weapon to defraud or take something of value through deceit.In the savings-and-loan crisis, thrifts engaged in control frauds in order to survive. Accounting trickery proved to be the weapon of choice. It is at work today with the banks, and it is their Achilles heel. You report that you are highly profitable when you engage in accounting-control fraud, not only meeting but exceeding capital requirements. These accounting frauds create huge bubbles, which in turn create large bonuses, which in turn lead to huge losses.Why then is there so much smoke and so little action?First, they are inundated by the problem. They are trying to investigate the major problems with severely depleted staffs. Honestly. We have lost the ability to be blunt. Now we have a situation where Treasury Secretary Geithner can speak of a $2 trillion hole in the banking system, at the same time all the major banks report they are well-capitalized. And you have seen no regulatory action against what amounts to a $2 trillion accounting fraud. The reason we don’t see it — aren’t told about it — is that if they were honest, prompt corrective action would kick in, and they would have to deal with the problem banks.Are there any parallels between the current crisis and the savings-and-loan crisis that give you hope?Of course. Objectively, our case was even more hopeless in the S&L debacle than in the current crisis. If we were able to do it in such an impossible circumstance back then, we have reason for hope in the current crisis. I know how easily things can get off course and how quickly things can turn back again. The thrift crisis went through several lengthy courses and distortions before it finally was resolved under the leadership of Edwin Gray, the chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, which oversaw FSLIC.We went through almost a decade of cover-ups by a Washington establishment intent on helping thrift owners. Back then, we had the Justice Department threatening to indict Gray, the head of a federal agency, for closing too many thrifts. Next, there were those so-called resolutions, where the regulators worked day and night — to create even bigger problems for the FSLIC. Years later, these so-called resolution deals had to be unwound at great expense by closing down even larger failures. Or how about the bill to replenish the depleted thrift-insurance fund that was blocked and delayed by then-Speaker of the House, Texas congressman Jim Wright?You say the evidence of a breakdown in the regulatory structure comes from the fact that America avoided an earlier subprime crisis in the 1990s.Exactly. Why had no one heard of the subprime crisis back in 1991? Because America’s regulators also faced down the crisis early. The same thing happened with bad credits being securitized in the secondary market. Remember the low-doc or no-doc mortgages done by Citibank? Well, the problem didn’t spread — because regulators intervened.Obama, who is doing so well in so many other arenas, appears to be slipping because he trusts Democrats high in the party structure too much.These Democrats want to maintain America’s pre-eminence in global financial capitalism at any cost. They remain wedded to the bad idea of bigness, the so-called financial supermarket — one-stop shopping for all customers — that has allowed the American financial system to paper the world with subprime debt. Even the managers of these worldwide financial conglomerates testify that they have become so sprawling as to be unmanageable.What needs to be done?Well, these international behemoths need to be broken down into smaller units that can be managed effectively. Maybe they can be broken up the way that the Standard Oil split up back in the early 1900s, through a simple share spinoff.The big problem for the last decade is that we have had too much capacity in the finance sector — too many banks have represented a drain on our talent and resources. All these mergers haven’t taken capacity out of the system. They have created even bigger banks that concentrate risk to the taxpayer, and put off dealing with problems.And a new seriousness must be put into regulation. We don’t necessarily need new rules. We just need folks who can enforce the ones already on the books.The bank-compensation system also creates an environment that leads to mismanagement and fraud. No one has to tell someone they have to stretch the numbers. It is all around them. It is in the rank-or-yank performance and retention systems advocated by top business executives. Here, the top 20% get the bulk of the benefits and the bottom 10% get fired. You don’t directly tell your employees you want them to lie and cheat. You set up an atmosphere of results at any cost. Rank or yank. Sooner rather than later, someone comes up with the bright idea of fudging the numbers. That’s big bonuses for the folks who make the best numbers. It sends the message — making the numbers is what is most important. There is a reason that the average tenure of a chief financial officer is three years.Compensation systems like I have just described discourage whistleblowing — the most common way that frauds are found in America — because the system draws upon the cooperation of everyone.The basis for all regulation and white-collar crime is to take the competitive advantage away from the cheats, so the good guys can prevail. We need to get back to that.Thanks, Bill.

http://online.barrons.com/article/SB123940701204709985.html

PeteCAApril 12th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

Follow-Up: News, April 11′th, Bloomberg …”China’s new lending surged more than sixfold from a year earlier to a record 1.89 trillion yuan ($277 billion) in March, adding to signs that growth in the world’s third-biggest economy is gathering pace. M2, the broadest measure of money supply, grew 25.5 percent, the central bank said on its Web site today. That’s the fastest since Bloomberg began compiling data in 1998 and more than the 21.5 percent median estimate in a survey of 12 economists. “This is going to translate into a serious new round of inflation for Chinese consumers.PeteCA

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

DILBERT by Scott Adams – Easter DayOffice of yet another shady Dogbert business:Client: “I’m thinking of investing in the Dogbert Hedge Fund.”Client: “Can you explain how it works?”Dogbert: “It’s simple. I take your money and then use math to turn it into my money while destroying the overall economy.”Client: “Is that legal?”Dogbert: “More so than you’d think.”Client: “What’s in it for me?”Dogbert: “My inflated claims will give you false hope.”Dogbert: “That way you won’t stress out until after you retire and discover you’re penniless.”Client: “But I…”(Bob the dinosaur appears behind client and hits client on back of head with club.)BONK!Unh!Client: “I don’t remember the last five minutes…”Dogbert: “I was telling you that my hedge fund will earn you 520% per year.”

PeteCAApril 12th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

Chris: So to extend your point. A major part of the battle between the USA and China boils down to who winds up with higher levels of unemployment out of this. Tye challenge to the USA is to regain productivity – but how given that we are now forced to deleverage. Leveraged trades were a response to low savings rates. The challenge to China is to re-tool and re-shape to find a new consumer base for exports. But how, when the whole global economy is in a major downturn?PetecA

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

SJ Mercury | April 12, 2009SV150 SHRINKING.In 2008, Silicon Valley wasn’t immune from the effects of a global economic meltdown: The number of public companies dropped. The combined profits and market value of the SV150 plunged:From “For Silicon Valley’s Business Model, a Change in Climate” by Chris O’BrienTucked into the annual “Mercury News” data-palooza known as the Silicon Valley 150, there’s one nugget of information that I think tells us more than all the other lists and numbers about the profound changes in store for this region:The number of public companies in Silicon Valley fell for the eighth consecutive year in 2008, to 261. Forget the inflated dot-com peak of 417 in 2000. It’s also below the 315 the valley had in 1994, when the “Mercury News” started keeping track.This is no longer a simple correction following a period of excess. This is now an unmistakable trend that represents the end of an era defined by a grand partnership between Silicon Valley and Wall Street…The impact of this evolution will be felt by those who work in the tech sector…But it will also ripple out to those who don’t work in tech but have felt in recent years the impact of higher costs of living and housing prices driven by the IPO and stock-option riches that are unevenly distributed by the innovation economy…The economy is likely to keep a lid on IPOs across the country for at least a couple of years. But based on what we saw the last eight years, even when the economy recovers there won’t be a rush to Wall Street by startup valley companies…So reinventing the innovation funding model is absolutely vital to the health of the valley’s economy (and, I would argue, the welfare of its residents). If we can solve that, Silicon Valley will still be Silicon Valley.If not, then we become the next Detroit.**********Related story… “For SV150’s market value, the biggest fall since ‘02” by Brandon BaileyThe numbers tell the story, as Hewlett-Packard CEO Mark Hurd has been known to say: The combined revenue for Silicon Valley’s 150 biggest public companies grew 5 percent in 2008, the smallest annual increase since the Internet bubble burst in 2001. Profits fell 52 percent for the year—not as steeply as in 2001, but the worst decline since then.Total market capitalization for the SV150, or the combined value that investors have assigned to those companies’ shares, dropped 32 percent for the 12 months ending March 31, falling to $849.9 billion, the worst decline since 2002.“When market capitalization goes down, it’s a barometer of the business cycle,” said Kevin Walsh, a Santa Clara University business professor with years of experience as a tech executive and venture capitalist…“I think some people were looking for a V-shaped bounce back,” meaning a steep decline followed quickly by a sharp ascent, “and that’s not going to happen.”

PhilTApril 12th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

Here, the top 20% get the bulk of the benefits and the bottom 10% get fired. You don’t directly tell your employees you want them to lie and cheat. You set up an atmosphere of results at any cost. Rank or yank.

Interesting article Hayes, and the above quote I think goes to the core of not just banking industry compensation and associated behavior, but that whioh governs our lives.I think that those who are perceived by others as banksters, etc. actually think they are the “good guys.” Those “good guys” look at others – who maybe honest Americans – as the “bad guys” or even “losers.”Take a look at the education system that produces the coveted “best and brightest” and its structures and incentives. Is there not cheating/gaming the system on a massive scale there as well?What is still happening in D.C. and on Wall Street as we blog, pepetuates the behavior.It is a deep-rooted issue, cultural/social/psycological, and, although I’d like to be, I am not as optimistic as William Black that it will change anytime soon. It may take generations or something else very severe to weed it out – this culture of corruption.Best

JoeApril 12th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

“Anyone who is doing anything sensible right now is either losing money or is out of the market entirely.” These are the words of a quant trader, who is seeing something scary in the capital markets. Scary enough to merit a warning that we could be on the verge of another October 87, August 2007, or January 2008.Let’s back up. I recently posted a chart which tracks equity market neutral strategies: in essence a cross section of quant funds for which there is public performance tracking. The chart is presented below (click to enlarge).There is not much publicly available data to follow what goes on in the mystery shrouded quant world. However, another chart that tracks the market neutral performance is the Highbridge Statistical Market Neutral Fund (HSKAX), presented below (click to enlarge). As one can see, we have crossed into major statistically deviant territory, likely approaching a level that is 6 standard deviation away from the recent norms.What do these charts tell us? In essence, that there is a high likelihood of substantial market dislocations based on previous comparable situations. More on this in a second.Why quant funds? Or rather, what is so special about quant funds? The proper way to approach the question is to think of the market as an ecosystem of liquidity providers, who, based on the frequency of their trades, generate a cushioning to the open market trading mechanism. It is a fact that the vast majority of transactions in the market are not customer driven buy/sell orders, but are in fact high frequency, small block trades that constantly cross between a select few of these same quant funds and program traders.This is a market in which the big players are Renaissance Technologies Medallion, Goldman Sachs (GS) and GETCO. Whereas the first two are household names, the last is an entity known primarily to quant market participants. Curiously, the Philosophy section in GETCO’s website exactly captures the critical role that quant funds play in an “efficient” market.What’s good for the market is good for GETCOGETCO’s strategy is to align our business plan with what is best for the marketplace. We earn our revenues by providing enhanced liquidity and efficiency to electronic financial markets, which in turn results in lower costs for market participants (e.g. mutual funds, pension funds, and individual investors).In addition to actively trading, we partner with many exchanges and their regulators to increase transparency throughout the industry and to create more efficient means for the transference of financial risk.A good example to visualize the dynamic of this liquidity “ecosystem” is presented below (click to enlarge):In order to maintain market efficiency, the ecosystem has to be balanced: liquidity disruptions at any one level could and will lead to unexpected market aberrations, such as exorbitant bid/ask margins, inability to unwind large block positions, and last but not least, explosive volatility: in essence a recreation of the market conditions approximating the days of August 2007, the days post the Lehman collapse, the first November market low, the irrational exuberance of the post New Year rally, and the 666 market lows.The above tracking charts indicate that something is very off with the “slow”, “moderate” and “fast” liquidity providers, indicating that liquidity deleveraging is approaching (if not already is at) critical levels, as the vast majority of quants are either sitting on the sidelines, or are merely playing hot potato with each other (more on this also in a second). What this means is that marginal market participants, such as mutual and pension funds, and retail investors who are really just beneficiaries of the liquidity efficiency provided them by the higher-ups in the liquidity chain, are about to get a very rude awakening.Also, it needs to be pointed out that the very top tier of the ecosystem is shrouded in secrecy: conclusions about its state can only be implied based on observable metrics from the HSKAX and HFRXEMN. It is safe to say that any conclusion drawn based upon observing these two indices are likely not too far off the mark.Skeptics at this point will claim that it is impossible that quant and program trading has such as vast share of trading. The facts, however, indicate that not only is program trading a material component of daily volumes, it is in fact growing at an alarming pace. The following most recent weekly data from the New York Stock Exchange puts things into perspective (click to enlarge):According to the NYSE, last week, program trading was 8% higher than the 52 week average, which on almost 4 billion shares is a material increase. It is probably safe to say that the 1 billion in program trades last week does not account for significant additional low- to high-frequency trades originated at non NYSE members, implying the real number for the overall market is likely even higher. Some more program trading statistics:principal trading is running 21% above 52 week average, agency trading is 11% below average, while NYSE weekly volume is running about 9% below 52 wk average.A very interesting data point, also provided by the NYSE, implicates none other than administration darling Goldman Sachs in yet another potentially troubling development. The chart below (click to enlarge) demonstrates the program trading broken down by the top 15 most active NYSE member firms. I bring your attention to the total, principal, customer facilitation and agency columns.Key to note here is that Goldman’s program trading principal to agency+customer facilitation ratio is a staggering 5x, which is multiples higher than both the second most active program trader and the average ratio of the NYSE, both at or below 1x.The implication is that Goldman Sachs, due to its preeminent position not only as one of the world’s largest broker/dealers (pardon, Bank Holding Companies), but also as being on the top of the high-frequency trading/liquidity provision “food chain”, trades much more often for its own (principal) benefit, likely in tandem with the other top dogs on the list: RenTec, Highbridge (JP Morgan (JPM)), and GETCO. In this light, the program trading spike over the past week could be perceived as much more sinister. For conspiracy lovers, long searching for any circumstantial evidence to catch the mysterious “plunge protection team” in action, you should look no further than this.Following on the circumstantial evidence track, as Zero Hedge pointed out previously, over the past month, the Volume Weighted Average Price of the SPY index indicates that the bulk of the upswing has been done through low volume buying on the margin and from overnight gaps in afterhours market trading.The VWAP of the SPY through yesterday indicated that the real price of the S&P 500 would be roughly 60 points lower, or about 782, if the low volume marginal transactions had been netted out. And yet the market keeps on rising. This is an additional data point demonstrating that the equity market has reached a point where the transactions on the margin are all that matter as the core volume/liquidity providers slowly disappear one by one through ongoing deleveraging.Unfortunately for them, this is not a sustainable condition.As more and more quants focus on trading exclusively with themselves, and the slow and vanilla money piggy backs to low-vol market swings, the aberrations become self-fulfilling. What retail investors fail to acknowledge is that the quants close out a majority of their ultra-short term positions at the end of each trading day, meaning that the vanilla money is stuck as a hot potato bagholder to what can only be classified as an unprecedented ponzi scheme. As the overall market volume is substantially lower now than it has been in the recent past, this strategy has in fact been working and will likely continue to do so… until it fails and we witness a repeat of the August 2007 quant failure events… at which point the market, just like Madoff, will become the emperor revealing its utter lack of clothing.So what happens in a world where the very core of the capital markets system is gradually deleveraging to a point where maintaining a liquid and orderly market becomes impossible: large swings on low volume, massive bid-offer spreads, huge trading costs, inability to clear and numerous failed trades. When the quant deleveraging finally catches up with the market, the consequences will likely be unprecedented, with dramatic dislocations leading the market both higher and lower on record volatility. Furthermore, high convexity names such as double and triple negative ETFs, which are massively disbalanced with regard to underlying values after recent trading patterns, will see shifts which will make the November SRS jump to $250 seem like child’s play.For readers curious about just how relevant liquidity is in the current market, I recommend another recent post that discusses DE Shaw’s opinion on the infamous basis trade, in which their conclusion was that establishing a basis trade, which is effectively the equivalent of selling a put option on market liquidity, ended up in massive financial carnage as the market rolled from one side of the trade to another. Is it possible that what the basis trade was for credit markets (most notably Citadel, Merrill and Boaz Weinstein), so the quant unwind will be to equity markets?So when will all this occur? The quant trader I spoke to would not commit himself to any specific time frame but noted that a date as early as next Monday could be a veritable D-day. His advice on a list of possible harbingers: continued deleveraging in quant funds as per the charts noted above, significant pre-market volatility swings as quants rebalance their end of day positions, increasing principal program trading by Goldman Sachs on decreasing relative overall trading volumes, ongoing index VWAP dislocations.One thing is for certain: the longer the divergence between real volume trading/liquidity and absolute market changes persists, the more memorable the ensuing market liquidity event will be. At the end of the day, despite the pronouncements by the administration and more and more sell-side analysts that the market is merely chasing the rebound in fundamentals in what has all of a sudden become a V-shaped recovery, the “rally” could simply be explained by technical factor driven capital-liquidity aberrations, which will continue at most for mere weeks if not days.

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

Well, all I can say is the ball went over my head. I’m content to leave this one to you, Pecos, and to Octavio and Sir Isaac Newton.

PetecAApril 12th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

Joe: Really interesting post. Much appreciated. Although you’re looking at quant funds here, I could interpret this data a little differently.Think about all those derivative trades. Offsetting, no? Or at least they are supposed to be. But offset how, exactly? Well sometimes, interest rates are simply offset against each other (i.e. interest rate deriv’s). But at other times, offsets on certain derivatives are not based on pairs of assets, but rather certain assets that are expected to trade in tandem. For example, you might expect equity markets to change up or down, traded against the euro/yen pair. And so offset on this basis.So the point is that if the old relationships are going out the door on a six-sigma divergence, then all those offsets of derivatives are … well not exactly offsetting. Bummer – at least if you’re a big bank hoping to make a lot of money off derivatives.PeteCA

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

I’ve been waiting for this story, betting that a record number of taxpayers will opt to pay ‘08 taxes owed and/or ’09 1st Q tax estimates by credit card.And here it is, the story that implies that’s going to happed, in today’s San Jose Mercury’s Sunday Business section:Can’t payyour tax bill?All is not lost(It’s best to be proactive when dealing with the IRS)NEW YORK (AP) – The clock is ticking down to April 15 and it’s time to pay the tax man.But if your 1040 form says you owe more than you have in your bank account, what should you do?“Don’t bury your head in the sand and hope it goes away,” warned Chas Roy-Chowdhury, head of taxation for the Association of Chartered Certified Accounts.If you owe taxes and you don’t pay, the Internal Revenue Service can eventually go after your bank account, your paycheck or other assets. But cash-strapped taxpayers have options that won’t result in a padlock on your front door. The key is not waiting for the IRS to act first.(the article proceeds to discuss three points: GO AHEAD AND FILE; CREATE A PLAN; OFFER TO COMPROMISE.)As for the latter, the article ends: “The offer in compromise process can be complicated and tedious,” he said. So it’s best to have a professional guide you through it if you reach this point.”No taxpayer bailouts, friends! Lest ye forget, ye are the bailers, not the bailees.

HayesApril 12th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

Japan Wholesale prices -2.2%Japan Producer Prices Fall at Fastest Pace Since 2002April 13 (Bloomberg) — Japan’s wholesale prices fell at the fastest pace in almost seven years as the global slump deepened.Producer prices, the costs companies pay for energy and raw materials, sank 2.2 percent in March from a year earlier, the biggest slide since May 2002, the Bank of Japan said in Tokyo today. That compares with a median estimate of 27 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News for a 1.8 percent decline.http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=aapV2GGRtCvk&refer=home

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

Absolutely NOT! McLauglin’s view represents some of the insane American view. No one on the earth FORCES American to spend beyond their mean. Now, American over spending and leveraging create a huge problem to the world. They are trying to blame others. It is a shame! It is clear to everyone that the credit problem and those CDS, CDO, ABS from American has wiped out the wealth of average Joe, NOT ONLY from America but also from the rest of the world!While American is stilling begging Chinese and Japanese to lend them more to bail them out from this mess, my advice is SHUT UP the mouths of people like McLaughlin. It will help the world!As I said before, a debtor has no right to point a finger to his biggest creditors especially at the time when he is trying to borrow more.Does McLaughlin wish the Chinese and Japanese ask their money back now by selling US Treasuries now? If not, please shut up his mouth. Period!

Guest muleApril 12th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

pb,i would say a.) true. b.) false. c.) false. d.) question. ” how many babies does it taketo screw in a light bulb?” answer.. “what is a light bulb?” ie. the trend of the economy isnot predicated on a failed “rocket launch” or the calculus of a tossed ball.e.) what has this got to do with the crazy, stunting and vexing notion of an expanding universe?f.) was i close? and how do you explain the “red shift” being reported in relation to recentobservations of allegedly receding retirement portfolios?

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

William Black has fired the second shot that will be heard around the world!A brave and brilliant man is William Black, a 21st century hero who has taken a stand against the most powerful politicians and bankers in the world because the call came. Black can be likened to our Founders for his courageous leadership in exposing “this $2 trillion accounting fraud,” this “multitrillion dollar cover-up,” this massive “felony securities fraud,” and a U.S. Treasury secretary who is “flouting the law, in naked violation, in order to pursue the kind of favoritism that the law was designed to prevent…turning the U.S. taxpayer into the sucker who is going to pay for everything”!Barron’s is to be commended for its role in breaking the silence surrounding this “bank scandal that…could destroy the Obama presidency,” that, “by promoting the notion of too-big-to-fail, [is] allowing a pernicious influence to remain in Washington.”Thank you, Hayes, for posting this account of history-in-the-making!

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

Dude – you forgot to mention that you lifted this post from Tyler Durden at zerohedge and that the comments following Tyler’s post are well worth a visit to that blog.

GuestApril 12th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

I can’t wait for the movie! It sounds great. A 21st Century rewrite of “Alice in Wonderland.” I love happy endings!

GuestApril 13th, 2009 at 12:10 am

For those back late from the Easter holidays, take a tip and the time to read NR’s current and very powerful summation of this ongoing financial crisis and economic downturn—it’s one of the year’s best analyses, IMO, of where we are and it checks somewhat growing investor irrational exuberant euphoria with its sobriety. (It pays to be sober while investing.) It’s very telling as to where the bodies are buried, and for those bodies still breathing issues a critical diagnosis of their health, looks at who’s on life support and gives a prognosis and duration of cure.And, as the Professor points out, it is a prelude to forthcoming detailed answers to the questions it asks.

Little SaverApril 13th, 2009 at 4:24 am

Taxpayer money is what the Wa-Wa (Wall Street-Washington) connection counts on to resolve the banking crisis. They won’t be friendly with those who aren’t co-operative.

GuestApril 13th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

Having a big health saving accounts and having Wells Fargo survive is not going to help you more.If the loss/disaster are prevented to be happening in the banks, they will reappear somewhere else such as rapid health inflation or simply almost total lack of available health care (high waiting time – in months).That’s what has happened in other countries.There is NO miracles in life.

chris davisApril 14th, 2009 at 1:43 am

Hey Pete,The point is here, that as the American consumer retrenches, it’s the saver/exporter employees who take the biggest hit, because their “miser” govts haven’t allowed them to develope sufficient domestic demand(salaries too low), whereas the consumer/spender nations’economies, are, by definition, not as leveraged to foreign demand(trade deficits), so, ironically, their profligacy is rewarded by relatively less layoffs(we’re cutting back more imports than exports, cause we’re big spenders). This concept is not widely understood by the media because it’s counterintuitive…..So USA comes out of global recession first, not last.

CHRIS DAVISApril 14th, 2009 at 1:58 am

Mon cher “weta”,my faith in America was instantly restored by the successful headshots to the pirates by our great commando services. I just find it somewhat historically ironical that a nation that deliberately chose to firebomb enemy civilians in WW II is now wringing its hands over waterboarding a handful of jihadists – get real – rewind the Dresden tape and we’ll talk.You are also off base on Japan — they had no idea we shot our wad on first two bombs and had several million battle hardened troops stationed on the mainland poised to fight to the last man — I’m surprised you’re not aware of the commonly available estimate of one million American casualties upon landing??Pearl Harbor was a wake up call to a selfindulgent citizenry who were attending, among other things, SRO pro-Nazi rallies hosted by Lindberg at Madison Square Garden as late as{YOU FILL IN YEAR}.As for Executive Order 11110, you’ll have to fill me in on that, but, be warned, I’m thoroughly convinced Ruby shot Oswald out of sympathy for Jackie — I also believe in Santa Claus……….

chris davisApril 14th, 2009 at 2:04 am

My dearest “Guest”,like I said, you need to stop the rant and take a course in macro-economics: no one forced Japan, Germany & China to overleverage their economies to exports

MarkApril 14th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

Yeah, FOX “News” … damn Democrats!MarkBTW – I thought we’d pretty much stomped out the distracting Party-blame game. Apparently not… It’s the rich Michelle, it’s NOT about political parties

MarkApril 14th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

Yes, Chris, “head shots!”Another product of the sensationalized entertainment nation!The more bullets you promote the more likely they’ll be coming back your way.Those who like to cling on the gun-slinging mentality ought to understand what’s behind something before shooting off…Weta, you forgot to mention Operation Northwoods. Look that one up Chris.Mark

MarkApril 14th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

I’d like to know who was responsible for selecting this cover (and title). They need to be run out of town along with this filthy trio!Mark

MarkApril 14th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

I think that it’s a fundamental human trait that cannot be rid of. That said (and there being no evidence to the contrary), the ONLY way to reduce this risk is to reduce the size of the systems that can be exposed to this trait (power/greed): essentially, no concentration of power!Mark

LexApril 22nd, 2009 at 9:41 am

And it’s confirmed.New York Times: “I.M.F. Puts Bank Losses From Global Financial Crisis at $4.1 Trillion “http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/business/global/22fund.html?_r=1&ref=globalWASHINGTON — As finance ministers gather here this weekend for meetings of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, they will focus on two eye-popping numbers: $4.1 trillion, the fund’s latest projected losses from the global economic crisis, and $1.1 trillion to help fix it.Skip to next paragraphThe huge numbers illustrate the depth of the worldwide economic upheaval and the challenge facing those institutions, which are increasingly at the heart of efforts to contain the damage.In a report released Tuesday, the I.M.F. estimated that banks and other financial institutions faced aggregate losses of $4.05 trillion in the value of their holdings as a result of the crisis.Of that amount, $2.7 trillion is from loans and assets originating in the United States, the fund said. That estimate is up from $2.2 trillion in the fund’s interim report in January, and $1.4 trillion last October.The fund said that it spotted the first glimmers of stabilization in the global financial system, but that “continued decisive and effective action” by governments, banks and institutions like the I.M.F. would be needed to prevent the system from going into a downward spiral.At a meeting of industrial and developing countries in London this month, President Obama and other leaders pledged $1.1 trillion more for the fund and, to a lesser extent, the World Bank.Now, the I.M.F. must figure out how to turn those pledges into hard cash — no easy task, insiders and outside experts say — and how to marshal the money to steady teetering economies including those of Iceland and Pakistan.“We’d be deluding ourselves if we think it is going to solve the crisis,” said Desmond Lachman, an expert on the fund at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. He was speaking at a conference organized by the institute titled “Can the I.M.F. Really Save the World?”The answer, most participants agreed, was no, but its vastly increased resources have turned the fund into a crucial player.“Anytime you raise expectations, it’s important that you deliver,” said Robert B. Zoellick, the president of the World Bank. “Part of this week’s meetings will be about how you deliver.”Analysts said the $1.1 trillion sum assumed huge contributions by the United States, China and other countries, which may or may not come through. It also counts some contributions more than once, and it counts some in the form of a synthetic I.M.F. currency that is not hard cash.Using funds on hand, the World Bank said it would triple its investments in social safety-net programs to $12 billion over the next two years. The goal, Mr. Zoellick said, is to protect the most vulnerable people in developing countries from facing poverty, hunger or disease because of the crisis. “It’s vital that we make this more than a discussion of high finance,” he told reporters on Tuesday.The reality is that the Washington meetings will be dominated by talk about the escalating losses weighing on the world’s leading banks, insurance companies and pension funds. The fund’s report said the recession was magnifying the impact of the credit squeeze on them.“Shrinking economic activity has put further pressure on banks’ balance sheets as asset values continue to degrade, threatening their capital adequacy and further discouraging fresh lending,” the fund said in its report, released twice a year, which has become a barometer of the severity of the crisis.As banks struggle to cleanse their balance sheets, the fund said, capital flows to emerging-market economies have plummeted, throwing Eastern Europe into crisis. That threatens to spill over to Western Europe, because its banks are major lenders to Hungary, Estonia and other countries.Among European countries, the fund has already agreed to more than $55 billion in loans to Hungary, Serbia, Romania, Iceland, Ukraine, Belarus and Latvia. More may yet need to be bailed out.On Tuesday, Colombia became the second Latin American country to seek aid, requesting $10.4 billion. Last Friday, the fund approved a $47 billion line of credit for Mexico, making it the first country to qualify for a loan from a program that extends credit to emerging economies that are considered well managed. Poland also said this week that it would seek a $20.5 billion credit line under that program.With so many loans flowing out the door, experts said, the fund would run out of money without the infusion.“They really need to nail down this financing, especially from emerging markets,” said Eswar S. Prasad, a professor of trade policy at Cornell University and a former head of the China division at the I.M.F.In a twist that leaves some experts shaking their heads, the fund needs money from cash-rich developing countries, like China and India, to help more developed but strapped countries, like those in Eastern Europe.Western Europe looms as the next front in the crisis, according to the fund’s report. It estimates that financial institutions will have to write down $1.19 trillion in loans and securities originating there. And they have gotten off to a much slower start than their American counterparts.In the United States banks reported $510 billion in write-downs by the end of 2008, and they face an additional $550 billion in 2009 and 2010, the fund said. In the countries of the euro zone, banks reported just $154 billion in write-downs by the end of last year and still face $750 billion in projected write-downs, the fund said.David Jolly contributed reporting from Paris.

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