CNBC and NPR Interviews; Guest Bloggers; and the Severe Worsening of Financial Market Conditions and of the Credit Crunch
I was recently interviewed by CNBC during their Power Lunch and by NPR’s Scott Simon for its Weekend Edition radio show:
Also, starting this week my Global EconoMonitor blog will also include – in addition to my own contributions – daily contributions from guest bloggers who are contributing to the seven RGE’s EconoMonitor blogs. So, every day we will highlight an important contribution from one of the 200 plus contributors to our RGE blogs. I hope you that my great community of commentators on my blog will provide thoughtful commentary to contributions made by this group of senior and well respected academics, scholars, policy makers and market participants.
As for the conditions in the financial markets, the financial crisis is getting much worse. Let me detail how:
- spreads in interbank markets are sharply widening in a situation that is becoming very severe as financial institutions are scared of counterparty risky;
- spreads in credit markets are sharply widening and given the refinancing needs of financial and non-financial institutions these firms are facing a refinancing time bomb;
- all the drastic monetary policy actions by the Fed (Fed Funds easing and creation of new facilities such as TAF, TSLF, PDCF) have done nothing to ease the liquidity and credit crunch as financial markets suffer of massive problems of insolvency and credit risk, not just illiquidity;
- financial firms equity valuations are falling further including banks, broker dealers and insurance companies;
- Lehman is desperately trying to find a buyer but – given its underlying low value (it is effectively zero) – is finding it very hard to find any suitor; similar pressures will be faced by all the other major broker dealers that will have to merge with other financial institutions;
- Fannie and Freddie are insolvent and the Treasury will need to inject at least $ 200 to 300 billion to rescue them;
- more banks are formally failing and being taken over by the FDIC;
- the list of banks on FDIC watch list is rising; the list of banks forced to sign the number of Memorandums of Understanding between distressed banks and the FDIC are rising; the FDIC will need major repletion of its funds as it will run of funds to insure the deposits of failing banks;
- eventually at least 700 banks will go belly up including many small banks, a good chunk of the regional banks and even some money center banks may be technically insolvent;
- securitization markets are totally frozen; origination of mortgages is now limited to conforming mortgages with rates on these mortgages rising as Fannie and Freddie are insolvent;
- credit losses are rising and – as I have argued before – $1 trillion is now just a floor to such losses as expected losses may end up being as high as $2 trillion. So conditions in financial and credit markets are severely worsening. Losses are spreading from subprime to near prime, prime mortgages and home equity loans (and related MBS and CDOs); to commercial real estate loans (and related CMOs); to credit cards, student loans and auto loans; to leveraged and bridge loans; to muni bonds and agency bonds; to industrial and commercial loans and corporate bonds (and related CLOs); to CDS that are a serious time bomb and a source of systemic risk in the financial system;
- a vicious circle is underway where the financial crisis and credit crunch led first to the economic recession and now a worsening economic recession is leading to larger financial and credit losses that will worsen the financial crisis, lead to a worse credit crunch and make the economic contraction even more severe. Expect GDP growth to be in negative territory from Q3 of 2008 until at least Q2 of 2009. The recession started already in Q1 of 2008 and the second quarter positive figure was driven only by massive tax rebate whose effect on consumption is already fizzling out this summer. So a U-shaped recession starting in Q1 of this year is now taking the form of a double-dip W-shaped recession with the upward blip concentrated in Q2 of this year;
- no wonder that financial officials at Jackson Hole had to recognize that the financial and credit crisis has become more severe. As well put it by Stan Fischer (as reported in Bloomberg): “The financial crisis has revealed ways to “to listen better and filter warnings better in the future,” Fischer said. The turmoil was “widely expected,” he said, citing economists including Nouriel Roubini, a former Treasury official known for his bearish views. “Nouriel was only off actually by a year and a half or so,” Fischer said.” Stan Fischer even agreed with my view that the financial crisis is “the worst since the Great Depression” even if he pointed out that, so far, the economic contraction has been much more modest. In my view the second round effect that he referred to in his Jackson Hole remarks will now lead to a significant economic contraction in the few quarters ahead, both in the US and in the other advanced economies as the US recession is now spreading to all of the G7 and to other advanced economies;
- the scenario of 12 steps to a financial disaster that I outlined in my February 2008 paper is unfolding as predicted. If anything financial conditions are now much worse than they were at the previous peak of this financial crisis, i.e. in mid-march of 2008;
- my recent views are fleshed out in more detail in my recent interview on Barron’s and in the profile article about me recently published by the New York Times magazine.
107 Responses to “CNBC and NPR Interviews; Guest Bloggers; and the Severe Worsening of Financial Market Conditions and of the Credit Crunch”
FF • August 26th, 2008 at 10:34 am
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Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Excerpt from “Inflation Rate is 5.6%… and Other Nonsense” by Vin SuprynowiczRising prices don’t cause inflation; they’re a time-delayed symptom of inflation. Any economist can tell you that inflation is the rate of increase in the money supply. The Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department and the Bureau of Engraving and Printing know down to the zinc cent how many new dollars rolled off the presses – or were created as new digital blips in their computers – since 2004.And, I submit, they’re lying about it – or allowing others to do so for them.The Department of Labor reported last week that the current 12-month rate of inflation is 5.6 percent – highest rate recorded since 1991.America’s newspapers and TV networks reported that as gospel.But even if that “high” rate of 5.6 percent had prevailed in every year since my Krause was prepared in 2003 for publication in 2004, gold should now be at only about $525; silver at about $8.54. (Gasoline – $1.90 per gallon in 2003 – should still be only $2.50, not $3.85…In fact, for prices of such widely traded commodities as gold and silver and gasoline to have doubled – when measured in fiat dollars – over a period of five years, the real rate of inflation has to be something more on the order of 15 percent per year (compounded); three times what the government claims. And that’s an average – it could be even higher right now…(We’d know precisely if the Fed still reported the M3 money supply. They stopped providing that number in 2006. Wonder why?)This purposeful inflation (watch for the euphemism “liquidity injection”) has created a “cheap dollar” that makes American prices look like bargains to foreign tourists (reversing the trend of the 20th century), but which reduces our own standard of living, and which is particularly insidious in eroding the value of the bank accounts of those who foolishly “played by the rules; worked and saved.”Why would government lie to us about this?First, they’re locked into all kinds of “Cost of Living Adjustments” for government workers, Social Security recipients, etc. If they admitted inflation was 16 percent, they’d have to give everyone a 16 percent raise this year, another 16 percent next year, a third 16 percent raise in 2010 – which adds up not to 48 percent, but to 56 percent, compounding even more in the fourth and fifth years.Bankruptcy would suddenly look much closer.But there’s a far more important reason. If you believe inflation is 5.6 percent, choosing between a “low-risk” bank savings account that promises a 5 or 6 percent return, and a “higher-risk” stock market investment promising an 8 or 9 percent rate of return (remember, “Big Oil” is demonized today for earning “outrageous, windfall” 7 percent profits), seems like a reasonable exercise.But faced with a 16 percent rate of inflation, such choices are a joke. Either “choice” will net you a hefty annual loss – most of your buying power will be gone in 10 to 15 years. At that point, the only kinds of “investments” that still make sense are those that offer “returns on investment” generally associated with drug dealing and playing the Megabucks.In such a climate, what sense does it make to invest in any dollar-denominated paper instrument – or even to open a new business? Not much…http://www.lewrockwell.com/suprynowicz/suprynowicz90.html
mammon • August 26th, 2008 at 11:55 am
This Article from August 25,2008 Dealbreaker blogspeculates that the Fed is allowing the Freddie Bonds to be used as collateral to borrow from the Fed’s Term Facility. Arbitraging the differentialin interest rates and leveraging on the purchase of the Freddie Debt. This would seem to allow a high volume of Freddie Debt to be sold due to the leveragein the purchase. The Fed would end up with a ton of Freddie debt as collateral! What do you guys think?Trade of The Day: Buy Freddie Paper With Fed LeveragePosted by John Carney, Aug 25, 2008, 4:24pmShares of Freddie Mac are soaring today, up more than 20 percent right now. The rise is being attributed to Freddie’s success in selling $1 billion of three-month and $1 billion six-month notes in a weekly auction, which has supposedly eased fears that the government sponsored mortgage company would have trouble financing its ongoing operations. But today’s debt sales may not be the endorsement of the financial health of Freddie Mac from bond investors that many believe it to be.The pricing on Freddie Mac’s three-month notes was about 90 basis points more than similar-maturity U.S. Treasuries. The spread on the six-month notes was about 92 basis points. Last week the spreads were 61 basis points on the three month notes and 80 basis points on the sixth month.The big boost of confidence in the shares, however, seems to have come from the fact that there were more bidders this time around, or at least bidders seeking more of the Freddie notes. Of course, the higher pricing is attractive to some bidders. But there may be a more technical and less transparent reason for the increased demand.We don’t know who bought the Freddie notes today. But buyers of Freddie notes who have access to borrowing from the Federal Reserve would have found the decision to bid relatively easy. That’s because the ability to exchange the Freddie debt for Fed cash means banks can buy Freddie debt with a huge amount of leverage, dramatically increasing the return on their capital.Here’s how it works. A bank that bought the six month notes from Freddie this morning could also bid to borrow from the Fed’s Term Facility, which held an $75 billion auction today. As collateral for the borrowing, the bank could offer the newly purchased Freddie notes, for which the Fed would give them credit for 97% of their market value. Recently, the TAF pricing topped out at 2.35 percent for 28-day borrowing. So a bank buying $100 million of Freddie paper yielding 2.858% could flip it to the Fed, borrowing $97 million at around 2.4% (assuming the pricing will be slightly higher this time around).At the end of the day, a credit desk could buy $100 million of Freddie debt for just $3 million down. On that $3 million, the desk would receive a 17.7% annualized return, or 8.8% over six months, for paper that is this close to being explicitly backed by the Treasury Department. Not a bad deal at all.
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
July sales came in at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 515,000, the Census Bureau report showed, up 2.4% from a revised 503,000 in the previous month. In last month’s report, June’s sales were reported to be at a rate of 530,000.With the string of downward revisions from the Census Bureau, economists worry that the hoped-for stabilization of the housing market is still further away than the monthly numbers now indicate.”It’s concerning because the pattern of revisions from the Census Bureau has been systematically downward instead of random as you’d expect,” said David Seiders, chief economist for the National Association of Home Builders. “Chances are we’ll see some downward revision when they put out the August numbers.”
Gloomy • August 26th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
THE SILENCE IS DEAFENINGYou can be sure that Lehman has been examined thoroughly by every financial institution, SWF, hedge fund and private equity fund in the world by now. At a market cap of a measely 9 billion, it would require mere pocket change for one of these entities to pick up this “crown jewel”. But none have made a move. This can mean only one thing: Lehman’s assets are far less than its liabilities. Nobody is going to come in and buy Lehman without the Fed ponying up big bucks. The silence is deafening and quite informative.
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
somebody doesn’t want stocks to go tappioka today…
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
@ MSN Money Market Events this morning: “August consumer confidence rose 9.6% month-over-month to 56.9, topping the median economist estimate of 53.0. The survey shows increased plans to buy a car, a home and major appliances within the next six months.”A la the Bill Clinton dictionary: “It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.” All that this confidence “rise” means, IMO, is that it’s still bouncing around in the basement.It seems that if most financial news is negative when the market bell rings in the morning, investors can sometimes rally around better numbers in the Consumer Confidence Index (CCI). That’s a consumer sampling and chart managed by a team of impartial scholars and statistical experts, right? In your dreams, truth seekers!The CCI is operated by the “Conference Board,” an international organization started and run by major corporations. Its “Board of Trustees” includes prominent chief executives who lead global corporations.The Conference Board (Wikipedia defined) “is a non-profit global business organization.”Non-profit is a strange concept coming from a powerful organization of profit makers who can benefit from a little blip in “consumer confidence” when it’s most needed.
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Sub-10,000 DOW before year end…possibly before the end of October. Look for fear indicators (VIX
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
@ mammon: “Here’s how it works. A bank that bought the six month notes from Freddie this morning could also bid to borrow from the Fed’s Term Facility, which held an $75 billion auction today. As collateral for the borrowing, the bank could offer the newly purchased Freddie notes, for which the Fed would give them credit for 97% of their market value. Recently, the TAF pricing topped out at 2.35 percent for 28-day borrowing. So a bank buying $100 million of Freddie paper yielding 2.858% could flip it to the Fed, borrowing $97 million at around 2.4% (assuming the pricing will be slightly higher this time around).”At the end of the day, a credit desk could buy $100 million of Freddie debt for just $3 million down. On that $3 million, the desk would receive a 17.7% annualized return, or 8.8% over six months, for paper that is this close to being explicitly backed by the Treasury Department. Not a bad deal at all.”Don’t that beat all? As said by Stan Fischer (as reported in Bloomberg) and quoted by Professor Roubini above: “The financial crisis has revealed ways “to listen better and filter warnings better in the future…”Does this mean this devastation is going to start all over again? Fischer is a key financial observer. Before becoming head of the Bank of Israel, Fischer served as Vice Chairman of Citigroup and President of Citigroup InternationalA quick glance at Fischer’s wikipedia bio gives this summary cutline under his picture — Stanley Fischer, Governor of the Bank of Israel: Born 15 October 1943 (age 64) Northern Rhodesia (Now Zambia); Nationality: Israeli, American; Fields: Economics; Institutions: Bank of Israel 2005-, Citigroup 2002-05, IMF 1994-01, World Bank 1988-90, MIT 1973-88, 1990-94: Alma mater: LSE (BSc ,MSc), MIT (PhD); Doctoral advisor Franklin M. Fisher; Doctoral students: N. Gregory Mankiw, Ben S. Bernanke.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Fischer.
Gloomy • August 26th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
MORE ON LEHMANNow Lehman is floating some cockeyed version of an off balance sheet SIV-like entity to dump all their crap in. Don’t they know everyone has seen this movie before and as a result no one is going to buy any movie tickets? This saga will surely end with a Fed bailout before Lehman reports earnings in a few weeks, to forestall a ratings downgrade.Meanwhile Paulson has no idea how to rescue Fannie and Freddie without a)causing a systemic financial meltdown as shareholders and /or bondholders get clobbered or b) revealing to the public that this bailout will require an exorbitant amount of money. It is going to be fun watcching him squirm in the coming months.
aleister perdurabo • August 26th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=a8w9MI4Btco4&refer=exclusiveSome excerpt on Paulson:The legislation gives Paulson all of the major items he asked for, including unlimited authority for 18 months to make emergency loans to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and possibly buy stakes in the two mortgage giants. The legislation also created a long-sought new regulator to oversee Fannie and Freddie. Bush signed it into law on July 30.Trading the presidential objections for Democratic backing was classic Paulson, says Edwin Truman, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics and a former Treasury official.`He’s a Dealmaker’“He’s a dealmaker,” Truman says. “It’s one skill that Treasury secretaries need to have.”Paulson sold his 3.23 million shares in Goldman, worth about $500 million at the time, when he took the Treasury job, according to regulatory filings. He was exempted from paying capital gains tax on the sale of those stakes under a rule meant to avoid penalizing wealthy people who take government jobs and are forced to sell assets.Paulson also sold about $25 million of holdings in a Goldman fund whose sole asset was a stake in Industrial & Commercial Bank of China, the world’s largest publicly traded financial institution. The bank raised $22 billion in its initial public offering in October 2006, the world’s biggest IPO.Managing the U.S. relationship with China is an increasingly important part of the Treasury secretary’s job. During the Fannie and Freddie crisis in July, Paulson used his credibility with Chinese leaders to reassure them that the U.S. mortgage companies weren’t in jeopardy.Paulson, who’s ruled out staying on at Treasury after Bush leaves office in January, says his next role may well be at an environmental group. “A big part of my life will be devoted to conservation and the environment,” he says. “The only thing that isn’t a certainty is whether that will be my primary or sole focus.”
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Now back to global economics:From Global Trade to Global Warby Branko Milanovic, August 26, 2008..Thus today the struggle between the West and Russia that threatens the world with not only another cold, but rather hot, war is between the two bands of greedy men, and it involves the riches of the Eurasian heartland (“the world island”) east of the Urals. It is an implacable fight because it is a zero-sum game. In contrast, the nature of the Sino-US rivalry is different because of complementarily which exists between capital and labor. Both are needed to produce toys and micro chips. But when it comes to natural resources, it is either you or I who control it.No less an admirer of global capitalism than Keynes saw its Achilles’ heel in greed that at times becomes so irrational that it works against person’s own interests. Lenin agreed: he thought that a capitalist would sell the rope with which he would be hanged. They might still be right. Halliburtons and Gazproms of this world, rather than ushering an era of universal peace, may bring us World War IIIhttp://justworldnews.org/
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Unbelievable:Cindy McCain flies to Georgia for Saakashvili talksThere are now nine NATO warships in the Black Sea with nine more said to be coming. In response, the Russians send their Black Sea flagship, a missile cruiser, back to sea. The NATO ships have over 100 tomahawk (land attack) and harpoon (sea attack) missiles on board. Such concentration of forces can lead to misunderstandings and escalation. They should be avoided.Russia has air cover over the Black Sea and owns a lot of the coast. In a conflict, the NATO fleet would likely get a serious beating.But a conflict in the Black Sea would virtually guarantee a McCain victory in the upcoming U.S. election. U.S. foreign policy is always determined by domestic politics. That is what makes me really nervous about these escalations.http://www.moonofalabama.org/2008/08/danger-in-the-b.html#comments
The Russian • August 26th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Da, sounds like another cold war startinghttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7582367.stmCARL BILDT, SWEDISH FOREIGN MINISTERThat the Russian government leadership now has chosen this route means they have chosen a policy of confrontation, not only with the rest of Europe, but also with the international community in general.GERMAN CHANCELLOR ANGELA MERKELThis contradicts the principle of territorial integrity, a principle based on the international law of nations and for this reason it is unacceptable.MIKHAIL GORBACHEV, FORMER SOVIET UNION LEADERThe risk of a new schism has arisen. There is a growing threat of global chaos.DAVID MILIBAND, UK FOREIGN SECRETARYToday’s announcement further inflames an already tense situation in the region. We fully support Georgia’s independence and territorial integrity, which cannot be changed by decree from Moscow.
AfA • August 26th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
@ GloomyI think that Lehman gives a new meaning, and magnificently captures the essence of the expression “A GOING CONCERN”.From Answers.com:Concern:v.tr. 4: To cause anxiety or uneasiness in: The firm’s weak financial posture is starting to concern its stockholders.n. 3: A troubled or anxious state of mind arising from solicitude or interest. See synonyms at anxiety.It is giving headaches and making anxious not only the management (Mr. Fuld) but also the Fed, the Treasury, the administration and the global financial system. The same applies to F&F
PhilT • August 26th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Protesters besiege government office in Bangkok BANGKOK: Thousands of anti-government demonstrators besieged government offices on Tuesday and briefly shut down a television station in some of the most aggressive actions in months of street protests.Organizers called it their “final war” in an effort to bring down the government of Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej, whom they accuse of corruption and of being a proxy for the former prime minister, Thaksin Shinawatra.Entire article: http://iht.com/articles/2008/08/26/asia/thai.php
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
@ aleister perdurabo: ““He’s a dealmaker,” Truman says. “It’s one skill that Treasury secretaries need to have.”…Paulson sold his 3.23 million shares in Goldman… when he took the Treasury job… Paulson also sold about $25 million of holdings in a Goldman fund whose sole asset was a stake in Industrial & Commercial Bank of China, the world’s largest publicly traded financial institution. The bank raised $22 billion in its initial public offering in October 2006, the world’s biggest IPO… Managing the U.S. relationship with China is an increasingly important part of the Treasury secretary’s job. During the Fannie and Freddie crisis in July, Paulson used his credibility with Chinese leaders to reassure them that the U.S. mortgage companies weren’t in jeopardy…It interesting to note that the Congress gave Treasury Secretary Paulson a blank check signed by the American taxpayer to bail out Freddie and Fannie and selected cohorts.On July 13, 2008, a Sunday, the federal government had moved in to help bolster Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac with Paulson’s Treasury Department proposal setting the stage for the government-orchestrated rescue.Paulson had been pressing for unhindered Treasury power, free from any Congressional oversight, on the claim that his backup plan would calm investors and stabilize financial markets. That same Sunday, on July 13, the Fed had issued the following release:“The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System announced Sunday [July 13, 2008] that it has granted the Federal Reserve Bank of New York the authority to lend to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac should such lending prove necessary. Any lending would be at the primary credit rate and collateralized by U.S. government and federal agency securities. This authorization is intended to supplement the Treasury’s existing lending authority and to help ensure the ability of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to promote the availability of home mortgage credit during a period of stress in financial markets.”Board chair of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York is Stephen Friedman, retired chairman of The Goldman Sachs Group who currently serves as chairman of Stone Point Capital, LLC.He joined Goldman, Sachs & Co. in 1966 and became a partner in 1973. He was vice chairman and co-chief operating officer from 1987 to November 1990, and co-chairman or chairman from 1990 to 1994. Friedman is chairman of the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board and of the Intelligence Oversight Board. From December 2002 to December 2004, he served as assistant to President George W. Bush for Economic Policy and director of the National Economic Council.Friedman is currently a board member of The Goldman Sachs Group.Says moneynews.com., “Central bank holdings of agencies (including those of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) have soared over the past two years and likely exceed $1 trillion. China accounts for half that total, Japan has over $250 billion (split between private and official sector holdings), and Russia holds about $100 billion (especially short-term).
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
If all that is true, why is it that the stock market does not fall or even crash?
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Did I mention incompetence and stupidity?War With Russia Is On The AgendaBy Paul Craig Roberts26/08/08 “ICH” — – Thinking about the massive failure of the US media to report truthfully is sobering. The United States, bristling with nuclear weapons and pursuing a policy of world hegemony, has a population that is kept in the dark–indeed brainwashed–about the most important and most dangerous events of our time.The probability of War is now extremely high, taking into consideration the rabid irrationality and insanity indicators of the “Leadership” of the USA.Ho humPeterJB
Anonymous • August 26th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
When that nasty person Carl Bildt starts sticking his nose in, the trouble will escalate because the Russians will not be pushed around by him.
Gloomy • August 26th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
@AfaVery good-Going, going, gone!
PhilT • August 26th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
@PeterJB on 2008-08-26 18:27:39 Thinking about the massive failure of the US media to report truthfully is sobering. Right you are , Sir. Everyone, and I mean literally everyone in the USA, is focused on the Democratic National convention in Denver, CO.A terrible excuse, but the only other information that is breaking through this coverage is a potential Hurricane threat to the US Mainland. The Carribean storm is called Gustav – maybe a tribute to what is happening in Europe!In case you have not spotted it, here is a reasonably good piece of work that gives English language translated excerpts from a variety of German news sources categorized by political disposition:Click 4 entire article: Russia Is Preparing for the Endgame in the CaucasusBest …
PhilT • August 26th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Apologies… above link may not be functional. Just tweaking my RGE/HTML tags..Here is the URL: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,574486,00.html
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Russia, US, Europe, Asia, resources, economy,strategic locations,technologygeopolitics sounds so complicated but in fact is quite easy to understand,anyone of you have played Sid Mier’s civilization3 conquest??for growth you need economy, when territory grows you need defenses, to run both economy/military you need resources, if you dont the have resources youll need to source it from a different country, you can either trade, plant a proxy leader (roses/orange/plum?? revolution) or take it yourself, even teenagers can understand this concept..the thing that worry me most is, US current actions indicates they are confident they can win if military confrontation with Russia/SCO materialize,that is scary..
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
@ The Russian re: BILDT, MERKEL, GORBACHEV and MILIBAND (17:13:02)Except for Gorbachev, this is NATO talking. NATO is financed by the U.S. Its foreign policy is run by the neocons. South Ossetia and Abkhazia are a part of the boundary of Georgia that is recognized by the entire world. Now, that boundary is going to change, thanks to neocon Randy Scheunemann et al. Now the border of Georgia is going to have two big chunks out of it.This is RUSSIA these folks are talking about, the Red Army, the second largest nuclear power in the world. And THEY are going to play footsie with it? Russia does not play footsie; it plays for keeps.The West thought it was cute, rushing over and talking Poland into setting up a U.S. manned “Patriot” missile system within 100 miles of Russia’s border. If the West wants to play in this game, it better remember it’s Russian territory. And they’re rough.Georgia’s boundaries are going to be changing, and you know what? There’s nothing the U.S. can do about it. We’ve spent decades working out peace with Russia and war is not an option. War is not, as many young people want to believe, air force and missiles; war is tanks and flame throwing and bombs and infantry and house-to-house burning and killing.Merkel is just playing the U.S. for everything she can get – the old NATO game. NATO was organized as a protection against the Stalin people. He’s not there anymore. Yet the West just keeps encircling Russia with NATO. And as Pat Buchanan said, you make these breakaway provinces a part of NATO, and we’re in a war.Georgia already has proved the point; it was Georgia vs. the Red Army and the Red Army won.It’s interesting to note that Carl Bildt already has been questioned for his role as a member of the International Advisory Council of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, a group with ties to the Bush administration pushing for an invasion of Iraq in 2003, of which Scheunemann was executive director.Now Scheunemann is the neocon agent in place in McCain’s camp – pushing for invasion of Russia.
Guest • August 26th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
News … “Cindy McCain flies to Georgia for Saakashvili talks”Quite possibly the most absurd news item I’ve read during the last month.PeteCA
JLC • August 26th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
The whole Russia-Georgia-NATO business smells like a rotten egg.When all of the desperate machinations of the Fed, Treasury, and Congress have failed to slow the credit crisis in the past year you know they have to be grasping at straws.”Worst financial crisis since the great depression.” And it took an enormously destructive war to get us out of the great depression. Global war – the super super SIV.History does indeed repeat itself. Only this time around, we will play the role of England in WWII, the empire in decline. China will play the role of the US, the powerhouse who emerges at the end with her industrial might at its peak.Ot dare I say that we are Germany and Japan, and our overextension and dependence on imported oil will be our undoing?We will rue the day we awakened the sleeping bear.
MASHIACH BEN CHANA • August 27th, 2008 at 12:39 am
The RUSSIANS ARE COMINGHELLO DEAR RGE BLOGGERSSIMPLICITY IS THE MOST FRUITFUL AVENUE OF LIFE, , YOU DON’T HAVE TO PHILOSOPHY, INTELLECTUALIZE, OR POLITICIZE WHAT IS HAPPENING BETWEEN RUSSIA AND NATO,RUSSIA WILL GO TO WAR WITH NATO AND INVADE THE ENTIRE EASTERN AND WESTERN EUROPE. STEALING IS IN THE BLOOD OF RUSSIAN PEOPLE AND THEY WANT TO STEAL THE ENTIRE EUROPE. AS SIMPLE AS IT IS.THE SAME WAY A THIEF GOES AND RUB A BANK. IS THERE ANY PHILOSOPHY OR POLITICS BEHIND HIS INTENTION TO STEAL? HE IS JUST A SIMPLE THIEF AS SIMPLE AS IT GETS.AGAIN I WARN ALL THE PEOPLE OF WESTERN EUROPE SELL YOUR HOMES YOUR FACTORIES YOUR SHOPS YOUR EUROS AND COME TO UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BEFORE IS TO LATE, SAVE YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY.THE RUSSIANS WILL HAVE ZERO MERCY ON ANY ONE LIFE’S.IF YOU ARE THE CITIZEN OF USA, WRITE TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND YOUR SENATOR AND TELL THEM USA. SHOULD LET GO OF EUROPE IN A EVENT OF WAR BETWEEN RUSSIA AND NATO AND TELL THEM WE AMERICANSDO NOT WANT TO DIE IN NUCLEAR CONFRONTATION WITH RUSSIA.HELLO RUSSIAGOODBYE NATOTHE AMERICANS ARE COMINGHELLO USA. GOODBYE IRAN.
Little Saver • August 27th, 2008 at 12:45 am
Fannie, Freddie Post Biggest Profits on Mortgages Since 1998http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a17G1.vWMkuU&refer=homeFannie and Freddie’s holdings are shrinking at a monthly rate of about $20 billion because of refinancings, home sales and borrower defaults, according to an Aug. 21 report from New York-based Citigroup analysts Scott Peng, Brad Henis, and Brett Rose. That money can be reinvested into higher yielding securities.That is one reason “there is no pressing need” for a bailout, they wrote in the report, titled “All That Sound and Fury, Signifying Nothing New.”With a fed lending rate at 2%, basic 30 year fixed mortgage around 6.3%, a 4% + spread in lending rate is not so bad and may start working its way onto bank’s balance sheets. Too big to fail, big brother helping big friends. Little savers don’t get 6.3%, little mortgage payers don’t pay 2%.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 2:37 am
bwhahahbwahaha, hahahahahaaverage voter, bwahahahahano..no..no, we dont need to discuss this with those low than average IQ voters, whats good for us is good for themhttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=a.7OGRdxkXSE&refer=economy“The conventions are aimed at the average voter,” he said Aug. 25 in Denver. “You don’t go into Quinlan’s bar and ask them what to do about the” Securities and Exchange Commission.Financial Crisis Is Absent From Agendas of Parties, CandidatesBy Rich MillerAug. 27 (Bloomberg) — The U.S. is facing the worst financial crisis since the Depression. You would never know that from the Democrats’ platform in Denver or its Republican counterpart, or from listening to Barack Obama or John McCain.While both candidates have bemoaned the ravages of the subprime crisis, they have yet to spell out steps for tackling it, such as using taxpayer money to shore up banks and housing.“They fail to come to grips with the biggest danger that is going to hit the next president in his first few months in office: the crisis in the capital markets,” said David Smick, a Washington-based consultant to hedge funds and author of “The World is Curved: Hidden Dangers to the Global Economy.”The Democrats’ platform, adopted at their Denver convention this week, labels the crisis a “debacle” and promises to jump-start the economy with a $50 billion stimulus package. It says nothing about helping banks or bailing out the mortgage-finance firms Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.The draft of the Republicans’ plank, to be adopted next week at their convention in St. Paul, Minnesota, supports “timely and carefully targeted aid to those hurt by the housing crisis” and opposes bailouts of private financial institutions. It doesn’t mention Fannie and Freddie.Fannie, FreddieMany Democrats shy away from tackling the credit crisis because of the party’s historical support for Fannie and Freddie. The Republicans, for their part, are reluctant to draw attention to a crisis that occurred on their watch. The subprime meltdown isn’t the only item missing from the parties’ agendas. The list also includes the Democrats’ failure to set out a strategy for countering Russia’s assertiveness and the Republicans’ silence on income inequality.Senator Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat, said conventions aren’t the place to discuss detailed plans for dealing with the markets.“The conventions are aimed at the average voter,” he said Aug. 25 in Denver. “You don’t go into Quinlan’s bar and ask them what to do about the” Securities and Exchange Commission.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 2:37 am
bwhahahbwahaha, hahahahahaaverage voter, bwahahahahano..no..no, we dont need to discuss this with those low than average IQ voters, whats good for us is good for themhttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=a.7OGRdxkXSE&refer=economy“The conventions are aimed at the average voter,” he said Aug. 25 in Denver. “You don’t go into Quinlan’s bar and ask them what to do about the” Securities and Exchange Commission.Financial Crisis Is Absent From Agendas of Parties, CandidatesBy Rich MillerAug. 27 (Bloomberg) — The U.S. is facing the worst financial crisis since the Depression. You would never know that from the Democrats’ platform in Denver or its Republican counterpart, or from listening to Barack Obama or John McCain.While both candidates have bemoaned the ravages of the subprime crisis, they have yet to spell out steps for tackling it, such as using taxpayer money to shore up banks and housing.“They fail to come to grips with the biggest danger that is going to hit the next president in his first few months in office: the crisis in the capital markets,” said David Smick, a Washington-based consultant to hedge funds and author of “The World is Curved: Hidden Dangers to the Global Economy.”The Democrats’ platform, adopted at their Denver convention this week, labels the crisis a “debacle” and promises to jump-start the economy with a $50 billion stimulus package. It says nothing about helping banks or bailing out the mortgage-finance firms Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.The draft of the Republicans’ plank, to be adopted next week at their convention in St. Paul, Minnesota, supports “timely and carefully targeted aid to those hurt by the housing crisis” and opposes bailouts of private financial institutions. It doesn’t mention Fannie and Freddie.Fannie, FreddieMany Democrats shy away from tackling the credit crisis because of the party’s historical support for Fannie and Freddie. The Republicans, for their part, are reluctant to draw attention to a crisis that occurred on their watch. The subprime meltdown isn’t the only item missing from the parties’ agendas. The list also includes the Democrats’ failure to set out a strategy for countering Russia’s assertiveness and the Republicans’ silence on income inequality.Senator Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat, said conventions aren’t the place to discuss detailed plans for dealing with the markets.“The conventions are aimed at the average voter,” he said Aug. 25 in Denver. “You don’t go into Quinlan’s bar and ask them what to do about the” Securities and Exchange Commission.
Wolf in the WIlds • August 27th, 2008 at 2:42 am
MASHIACH BEN CHANA,The global geopolitical landscape is changing again without doubt. However, it is still uncertain whether it will be a better or worse place. We really don’t need hyperbole and fear-mongering to drive home a point. The idea of a re-emergent Russia is not necessarily a bad thing, as with the decline of the US. Europe definitely has a decision to make. Do they align themselves with a economically weak and probably militarily weak US, or do they adopt a more balanced attitude towards global politics. Clearly, the political establishment in Europe and the military co-operation of NATO has some reconciliation to do. Their economic reliance on Russian energy and Russian growth would lead to a more diplomatic approach to the current disagreement than the neocon approach of NATO. When an empire goes into decline, others must step up to the stage to assume mantle. What Russia is doing now is what any sensible nation would do: to ensure the integrity of its borders. And NATO will do well to remember that. Their political and military encroachment of Russia is at an end. The balance of power has shifted more toward the centre. Whether it tips over to Russia would really depend on how the Europeans react. I welcome this change. The imbalances of power in the last 2 decades have resulted in unreasonable unilateralism and in general, laid the seeds of terrorism for the next decade. A more balanced global approach towards geopolitical issues cannot be bad.In addition to Russia, I do expect China to rise in prominence as well. As the US economy continue to go into a comatose state, so will decline EM’s reliance on the US economy for growth. The shift will lead to more independence of foreign policy AWAY from USA’s doctrines.The world is changing. But it may not be a bad thing.My fear is that the US would push the world to war as a desperate attempt to hold on to power. That is a scary thought.The Russians are not the war-mongers. The Americans are.On Freddie and Fannie:It is ironic that Citi can come out with research like that. What these guys didn’t take into account is the amount of money FRE and FNM will lose when defaults on mortgages continue to increase, and no matter how much “carry” you have, defaults will wipe out any earnings and more. They must really think we are stupid……
Wolf in the Wilds • August 27th, 2008 at 2:46 am
Maybe calling the US militarily weak is incorrect. Militarily stretched is probably a better term. But it will be weak when they cannot afford to run the military anymore (which I do see happening in time to come).
dueleilomo • August 27th, 2008 at 3:05 am
“(Reuters) – Federal Deposit Insurance Corp (FDIC) might have to borrow money from the Treasury Department to see it through an expected wave of bank failures, the Wall Street Journal reported.”So Fed is to borrow money from…
du lei lo mo height • August 27th, 2008 at 3:07 am
“So Fed is to borrow money from…”the god?
du lei lo mo height • August 27th, 2008 at 3:07 am
“So Fed is to borrow money from…”the god?
Humkaifukwai • August 27th, 2008 at 3:48 am
i want to buy lehman bothers. how must is it?
tutterfrut • August 27th, 2008 at 3:58 am
Russian President Medvedev says :”The US should better take care of its own economy instead of international affairs”.”We are interdependant, and that’s why we wish that our American partners bother less about international affairs and more about reinforcing their economy, because the American economy is at the heart(center)of many economic problems”, He said in an interview given to the panarab television Al-Jazeera….He also mentioned Fannie and Freddie “who are close to announce payment default”"This would be a very unpleasant situation for the US and other markets. Things to be taken care of, also in joint efforts”(translation is my own)http://fr.rian.ru/world/20080827/116303492.html
le no mou chau far height • August 27th, 2008 at 4:00 am
should I take over fredie or fannie?I got 10 billion Euro.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 4:06 am
Russia is happy to see the record oil price.And Bush is NOT sad to see it.So… you be ready to see the crazy rise in oil/gold prices.
Anonymous • August 27th, 2008 at 4:36 am
due lei lo mou!mei kwok yan ching pot kai.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 4:56 am
dui bu quiwo bu mingbaiUS meiyou qian
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 6:49 am
Speaking of hitting it exactly on the head:”There are numerous problems with this approach, starting with the fact that it was the bankruptcy of the banking system which created the demand for more cash from the mortgage system—the issue was never houses per se, but the creation of ever larger volumes of mortgages to feed the securities machine and the derivatives markets. The sale of houses was a byproduct of the looting of the population through mortgage debt.”http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2008/3534peering_jackson_hole.htmlI think that I also suggested something along these same lines some time ago. Some good points in this article and very colourful, as always.I’ll stick with incompetence and stupidity but am happy to add in parasitical relationships flying false colours.Ho humPeterJB
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 8:39 am
FDIC says list of troubled banks in 2nd quarter grows to 117 with $78 billion in assets – up from 90 banks, $26 billion in assets in 1st quarter.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 8:48 am
OK smart folks on this blog riddle me this…why, if the Treasury is going to fund Phony, Fraudie AND the FDIC, why the hell aren’t bond prices tanking? The 10 year bond should be well over 5% given that sceanrio-any answers?
JLarkin • August 27th, 2008 at 8:50 am
You have to love this expert:This year nine banks with total assets of $40 billion have failed, according to the FDIC.Although the banking industry is clearly under stress, the size of the list shouldn’t be alarming, said Michael M. Heller, president of Veribanc Inc., an independent bank rating firm in Woonsocket, R.I.Even in 2005 and 2006, years when no banks failed, there were 40 to 50 institutions on the FDIC’s problem list, Heller said.”Are we in a tough time for the industry?” he said. “Yes, absolutely. But is it panic time like in the late ’80s and early ’90s? No way.”At the end of 1992, toward the end of the savings and loan crisis, 1,063 institutions were on the list.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 8:53 am
FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair commented in a press conference this afternoon that she expects the credit markets to continue to worsen, and judging by the recent action in credit spreads, the market seems to agree. According to Merrill Lynch data, interest rates on investment grade corporate bonds are currently not only at higher levels than they were at the Bear Stearns low, but they are also at their highest levels ever. As of yesterday’s close, investment grade corporate bonds were yielding 312 basis points more than Treasuries, which is a 118% increase over year ago levels.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 8:54 am
From Bespoke:Year over year earnings for the S&P 500 declined by a little more than 23% in Q2 ’08 versus Q2 ’07. Expectations at the start of earnings season based on cumulative analyst estimates were -11%, so actual numbers were more than twice as bad. This brings us to earnings expectations for the next few quarters. Currently, bottoms up estimates are looking for S&P 500 earnings to decline by 0.2% from Q3 ’07 to Q3 ’08. Q4 ’08 estimates are looking for growth of 43.6%, and Q1 ’09 estimates are at 28.1%. These high numbers are due to the extremely weak readings we got in Q4 ’07 and Q1 of this year. Only time will tell if these estimates are too lofty, but based on the last few quarters, they most likely are.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Trying to reduce the number of voters for Obama in November??Federal agents round up nearly 600 plant workers in small Mississippi town of Laurel as the largest single-workplace immigration raid in U.S. history causes panic
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 9:38 am
the mystery buyers in US stocks show up right on time as usual!
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 9:59 am
Gazprom Leads Surge in Russian Debt Risk to Five-Month HighAug. 27 (Bloomberg) — OAO Gazprom led a jump in the cost of protecting Russian companies from default to the highest in almost five months on investor concern the country’s military incursion in Georgia will trigger a rise in borrowing costs.Credit-default swaps on the world’s largest natural-gas producer increased 36 basis points to 260 this month, and Moscow-based oil-pipeline operator OAO Transneft rose 33.5 to 265, according to at CMA Datavision prices at 3:15 p.m. in London. Contracts on Russia’s government debt climbed 32 to 134, the highest since April 2.The credit crisis has already prompted a jump in Russian corporate funding costs, with the nation’s largest lender, OAO Sberbank, increasing rates on outstanding loans by an average of 2 percentage points last month. International investor concern over the Georgia military action may add at least a further 0.5 percentage point to annual interest payments, according to Mikhail Galkin, a fixed-income analyst at MDM Bank in Moscow.`Access to capital for Russian corporations, already severely damaged by the global credit crunch, has further deteriorated on the back of increased political risks,’ Galkin said in an interview todayhttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a8nwkeO3hqbs&refer=worldwide
Softwarengineer • August 27th, 2008 at 10:05 am
LOOK FOR MORE LIPSTICK ON THE ECONOMY PIGIts a Dem/Rep convention period and a presidential election in a couple months, look what’s “coincidentally[?]” happenning:Gasoline prices have gone down over 10% from their peak a few weeks ago. The war in Iraq suddenly has a withdrawl timetable. Even Bernanke says inflation in 2009 will be subdued…..I always laugh when gas goes up $1-2/gal, then back down 50 cents a gal; now all of the sudden its cheap again. LOLGreat blog above on the absudity of the puny COLA calculation to pay for our horrifying 2008 inflastion. I won’t repeat it.Here’s a great opinion URL on why our present unemployment, inflation, etc rate data is a complete joke(s):http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/the-sham-of-our-current-unemployment-rate-numbers-lessons-from-the-great-depression-part-x-data-mining/enjoy
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Guest: “OK smart folks on this blog riddle me this…why, if the Treasury is going to fund Phony, Fraudie AND the FDIC, why the hell aren’t bond prices tanking? The 10 year bond should be well over 5% given that sceanrio-any answers?”————Absolutely in any sane, rational economy the bond prices would have long ago responded to this drastic fiasco on Wall St. One of the great ironies today is that China has allowed its stock market to trade freely (even with a substantial loss in value), while the US market is rotten to the core with manipulation. What does that say about real “freedom” ?By the time US bonds really plunge, the American economy will be in tatters. We are on course for that future … it lies ahead.If you check the Fed listings for Foreign Purchases of US debt, you’ll notice a line item called “Carribean Banking Ceneters”. Some people claim this represents hedge funds buying US bonds, and to some degree they may be right. But my theory is that the Fed & US Treasury have some sort of proxy hedge fund that operates through this window to buy back US bonds when no-one else wants them. Hence they maintain the illusion that there is adequate demand for our bonds. In reality, we’re buying back the unsold bonds ourselves, and burying the transactions.The purpose of the manipulation is to keep bond prices from soaring, and hence mortgage rates from rising rapidly. That would further sink the housing market, and lead to a dramatic deterioration is assets held by (insolvent) banks on Wall St.PeteCA
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Ohh, and a small mistake on my last postThe last post should have said … “the purpose of the transaction is to keep bond rates from soaring and driving up mortage rates”.PeteCA
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 10:43 am
@ PeterJB: “the issue was never houses per se, but the creation of ever larger volumes of mortgages to feed the securities machine and the derivatives markets. The sale of houses was a byproduct of the looting of the population through mortgage debt.” ~Yes. In America’s not so distant past, the old rule was “Never spend a penny ‘less you are forced to, yet pay cash for everything.”The deferred payment system is our greatest curse.Think how reasonable the price of a house would be today when compared to the average man’s salary if there were no interest payments: if Bernanke could not print money for the moneylenders to artificially raise the price of a house.It boggles the mind to compute the “interest” America’s families turn over each month, for thirty years, to these “lenders” – who neither spin nor weave — and to the tax man in “property taxes.” All for a “home.”
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 11:01 am
Are Bush & Cheney (and possible hardliner McCain to follow) actions in Poland leading the US & World to Nuclear War with Russia?http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php?articleId=9929
Anonymous • August 27th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Can someone explain what is behind today’s durable goods order number? Is it indicative of a economic recovery or some kind of accounting gimmick?
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 11:24 am
@Anonymous on 2008-08-27 11:06:27Durable Goods Orders Stronger than Expected in JulyThe advance durable goods report for July was considerably stronger than expected. Overall orders rose 1.3% versus general expectations of a flat performance, and June data were revised higher.The surprise in July was largely in the core category of nondefense capital goods excluding aircraft, which jumped 2.6% for its third big gain in the last four months. That left its three-month annualized growth rate at a very strong 13.5%. Core shipments posted an as-expected increase of 0.6% in July and June data were revised a little lower, but the three-month growth rate nevertheless rose to 6.7% versus 5.6% in Q2. We suspect growth in orders and shipments will eventually slow along with the global economy, but the latest data bode well for a positive Q3 GDP contribution from the investment sector.Revisions to June inventory data will outweigh the downgrade to June shipments, adding another tenth of a point to the running total of visible Q2 GDP source data revisions. That puts the total at about 0.8 points, implying an upgrade in Q2 growth to about 2.7% in tomorrow’s preliminary report.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 11:29 am
“Eventually,” explained Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili according to the AP, “we would have chased them away, but we would have had to go to the mountains and grow beards. That would have been a tremendous national philosophical and emotional burden.”As the third graders used to say on the schoolyard: “Yeah, you and whose army?”Whose army, indeed. The Kremlin says Mikhail is delusional and dangerous. But as a characterization of the neocons pushing the U.S. foreign policy that made Mikhail what he is today, “delusional and dangerous” is only half right; more likely it’s “intentional and dangerous.”
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Dow up 140 pooints right now even with oil surging and the FDIC admitting that they need to borrow to replace insured deposits!!!!!!! What the hell????
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 11:50 am
“Why did Strong do it? Why did he allow Montagu Norman tolead him around by the nose and to follow an unsound policyin order to shore up Britain’s unsound monetary structure?Some historians have speculated that Norman exerted a Svengalilikepersonal influence over the New Yorker. It is moreplausible, however, to look at the common Morgan connectionbetween the two central bankers. J. P. Morgan & Co., as wehave seen, was the fiscal agent for the Bank of England and forthe British government. Norman himself had longtime personaland family ties with New York international bankers. Hehad worked for several years as a young man in the New Yorkoffice of Brown Brothers & Co., and he was a former partner inthe associated London investment banking firm of Brown,Shipley & Co. Norman’s grandfather, in fact, had been a partnerin Brown, Shipley and in Brown Brothers. In this case, as inmany others, it is likely that the ties that bound the two menwere mainly financial.”THE MYSTERYOF BANKINGoMurray N. Rothbard
Anonymous • August 27th, 2008 at 11:55 am
So, both of the platforms (Dem and Rep) call for no Wall Street bailouts. Fine, that is the will of the people and the political parties are listening. If that’s aimed at the “average voter”, whatever anyone says, I agree with it.Now is there some way we can make them keep their promises when they take office in January? I will support whichever party I believe will keep that promise.The Democrats lied in the 2006 election. They got elected only because they said we would be out of Iraq. Then they voted to stay in. That’s simply a lie. Do we expect them to lie this time too? Do we think the Republicans are lying?
PhilT • August 27th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Any word on the nature of the cause of FAA flight plan system failure yesterday? A cursory look at the FAA’s website reveals nothing.Best …
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
August 27, 2008 12:40 PM ETBy Zach CarterThe OTS issued a cease and desist order against Ideal Federal Savings Bank under which the company must “immediately” seek a “merger or acquisition partner” and stop making land and development loans.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Why Russia recognised rebel regionshttp://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/Breaking%2BNews/World/Story/STIStory_272384.htmlMOSCOW had no option but to recognise Georgia’s breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia as independent states, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev wrote in Wednesday’s Financial Times.The United States, Nato and European powers have strongly condemned Russia’s recognition of the regions, after it sent tanks and troops into Georgia to push back the forces of the Caucasus state.’It was not a step taken lightly, or without full consideration of the consequences,’ Mr Medvedev wrote in the London-based newspaper.He said Russia had tried hard to prevent conflict in Georgia but the West had helped provoke it by its handling of Kosovo.’Ignoring Russia’s warnings, western countries rushed to recognise Kosovo’s illegal declaration of independence from Serbia,’ Mr Medvedev wrote.’We argued consistently that it would be impossible, after that, to tell the Abkhazians and Ossetians (and dozens of other groups around the world) that what was good for the Kosovo Albanians was not good for them.’In international relations, you cannot have one rule for some and another rule for others.’Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili bore the blame for the conflict, Mr Medvedev wrote.’Only a madman could have taken such a gamble. Did he believe Russia would stand idly by as he launched an all-out assault on the sleeping city of Tskhinvali (in South Ossetia), murdering hundreds of peaceful civilians, most of them Russian citizens?’He added: ‘Russia had no option but to crush the attack to save lives. This was not a war of our choice. We have no designs on Georgian territory.’Mr Medvedev said that after South Ossetia and Abkhazia appealed for Russian recognition of their independence, ‘a heavy decision weighed on my shoulders’.'I sincerely hope that the Georgian people, to whom we feel historic friendship and sympathy, will one day have leaders they deserve, who care about their country and who develop mutually respectful relations with all the peoples in the Caucasus.’Russia is ready to support the achievement of such a goal,’ he wrote. — REUTERS
Robes Pear • August 27th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Amazing! the power of fiat money to shift power invisibly. The financial structures are now encircled and suffering seige, while the offensive power slowly waits them out as they exhaust resource. BUT, these are paper soldiers made of paper money, with the presses within the city. Every “liquidity injection” produces more fighting force for the beseiged, while diluting the power of the beseigers. What a wickedly, smart, canny device! Reminds one of a virus who has taken over the replicating powers of cellular division, its sources the strength of the host to produce the very means of destroying it.Real money (precious metal), being scarce in nature, would hamper them and quicken the ultimate end.This is a war where the defenders can access deep wells of water and supplies from the very enemy they combat. They are able to interdict and appropriate their own supply lines silently, at any time of their choosing. Truly a scorched earth policy where a financial encirclement weakens or destroys both armies. No longer is this creative destruction, but simply steroidal destruction. Welcome to the engineering works and barricades of international central banking. Is this the reason that there was such distrust of secret groups having monetary authority over large populations but without the governed having any check-balance power to mitigate mischief? We are on the cusp of a monumental destruction and reallocation of world wealth. Where a little unethical slippage can be stomached for the “greater good”, great slippage is not far behind.Assuredly, this cannot end well. It will not end just with fiscal discomfort. It will not just end with dimunition of lifestyle.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
WHAT JUST CAISED 10yr YIELDS TO PLUNGE???
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
OTS ORDERS AMERICAN STERLING BANK TO RAISE CAPITAL OR SELL The OTS on Aug. 20 issued a cease and desist order against American Sterling Bank, requiring the company to improve its capital position by Sept. 12 or be acquired.Referenced Tickers:8/27/2008 1:30 PM ET
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
considering that the official inflation rate is likely not even close to the real inflation rate, as explained here:http://www.lewrockwell.com/suprynowicz/suprynowicz90.html…has the stock market really went up or down?…in real dollars, that is…
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Carl Bildt is actually the Swedish version of John Howard (the Australian PM)…a person who seems to want to make his country to some sort of a follower of America…
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
GOODBYE CIVIL LIBERTIES, HELLO MCCAIN WITH CHENEY AS VEEP
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Q2 2008 for the first time ever, the Dow Jones Industrial Average posted quarterly losses instead of earnings. http://caseyresearch.com/displayCcs.php?e=true
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
NEW ORLEANS — On the cusp of Hurricane Katrina’s third anniversary, nervous Gulf Coast residents watched Wednesday as a storm threatened to strengthen and crash ashore, testing everything the city has rebuilt.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
http://www.peteyandpetunia.com/VoteHere/VoteHere.htmCampaigning–and that hard choice between candidates. Come Great Leader!
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Is the US prepared for $170 oil? Too late now!
Anonymous • August 27th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Carl Bildt isn’t just the Swedish Foreign Minister, he’s a big one-world guy from way back. He’s a big fish who is resting in his current job.Russia won’t respect him.
subgenius • August 27th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
It’s all OK everybody, the recession is off the table…orders for non-aircraft machinery and other capital goods — jumped 2.6% in July, double the June advance……..”This suggests the credit crunch is not having a profoundly adverse impact on capital spending that most economists, myself included, assumed it would,” said David Resler, an economist at Nomura Securities……..The numbers “hardly look recessionary or pre-recessionary,” said Robert Brusca, head of Fact and Opinion Economics in New York.So that’s nice.http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2008/08/what-happened-t.html
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
CEO Dan Mudd is shaking up the executive suite, with the current business, finance and risk officers leaving the mortgage giant
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Speaking of China, the US Dollar and Stealth:”Beijing swells dollar reserves through stealthRule changes for commercial banks are acting as cover for exchange rate intervention,writes Ambrose Evans-Pritchard”http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/08/26/ccchina126.xmlAnything new here? Guess not.Ho humPeterJB
Alessandro • August 27th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
User Obseedian over on tickerforum.org has assembled an unoffcial troubled bank list that might be interesting for people with money in small US banks. The list is elaborated starting from public information from the FDIC and doesn’t cover all US banks.http://www.geocities.com/tubeguy@rogers.com/troubledbanks.htmAs always perform your due diligence before you believe what you read on the internet.
Alessandro • August 27th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
@PeterJBGreat article you linked:http://www.geocities.com/tubeguy@rogers.com/troubledbanks.htm
sns • August 27th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/28/business/worldbusiness/28audit.html?hpHAH wonder if international accounting schemes will fix much….in how many years from now?
kilgores • August 27th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
@ Guest on 2008-08-26 22:35:06[NATO']s foreign policy is run by the neocons.Nonsense.SWK
kilgores • August 27th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
@ Guest on 2008-08-27 12:17:18>”We have no designs on Georgian territory.” — Dmitry Medvedev 27 August 2008.”I have no further interest in the Czecho-Slovakian State, that is guaranteed. We want no Czechs” — Adolf Hitler 26 September 1938.Time will tell, as it always does…SWK
Anonymous • August 27th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Gospodin Medvedev does not regard the areas now controlled by Russia to be Georgian territory, certainly not the free states of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Not sure how he would describe the port city of Poti.
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
SWK why are you comparing hitler to medvedev??they are world apart..i think this is more appropriatebush=hitlerremember who coined this… pre-emptive,by using this pre-emptive doctrine and a missile shield in Poland, bush effectively countered Russia’s ICBM’s (the balance left from US first strike on them)ability.Remember “pre-emptive”,its like saying i can blow your nation to dust without giving you ample warningand if i were Putin or Medvedev, i would be really, really upset!!!
Anonymous • August 27th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
SWK is pretty consistent in following the neocon party line.
kilgores • August 27th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
@ Anonymous 23:12:51Funny, a couple of weeks ago it was suggested that I was espousing Marxism on this blog. It’s so insightful to dismiss the comments of other posters by shunting them into arbitrary categories based on one’s own prejudices.Just what do you consider to be the “neocon party line?” I’ve never been called neoconservative before. You must be confusing being neoconservative with being able to express an educated opinion with which you don’t happen to agree.SWK
Guest • August 27th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
and you know what, if a war do start,Russia will named as the aggresor,the one who started ww3,why? because in order to counter the pre-emptive doctrine+missile shield in europe tacticRussia must first take out those missile shields, that move is a certainty and as those missile is in europe, EU is considered attacked..that suits US just fineUS just have to act like dr strangelove and let Russia make the move
kilgores • August 28th, 2008 at 12:03 am
@Guest 23:10:05You miss my point. Medvedev is no Hitler, but I am not convinced that Russia has no designs on controlling the rest of Georgia. Hitler had designs on controlling the rest of Czechoslovakia while initially disclaiming any such interest following German annexation of the Sudetenland.I can level plenty of criticism at President Bush, but I wouldn’t equate him with Hitler, either. He may be colossaly ignorant, downright stupid and grossly misguided, but I don’t consider him to be consciously evil.SWK
kilgores • August 28th, 2008 at 12:10 am
@Guest 23:52:44For the record, I think the Bush Administration’s plan go locate a missile defense shield in Poland to have been short-sighted and unnecessarily provacative.SWK
Anonymous • August 28th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Don’t you think it would be stupid for Russia, having their citizens in Tskhinvalli murdered and having won the ensuing short war, to take nothing for their trouble, to give back everything?Life doesn’t work that way.I don’t recall that Hitler had a similar excuse for his expansionism — his neighbors didn’t have the colossally stupid “foreign policy” that the US bloc does now — but if he did and reacted by taking territory and not giving it back, then the comparison to Medvedev is apt: both were doing the natural thing.Israel still hasn’t given back land it captured in the Six Day War. It won the war, it keeps the land. This seems like the best parallel to me, to what is happening in areas that were formerly in Georgia.
MASHIACH BEN CHANA • August 28th, 2008 at 12:53 am
THE RUSSIANS ARE COMINGSUCH A PITY BACK WHEN NURIEL WAS ECONOMIC ADVISER TO CLINTON ADMINISTRATION HE ORCHESTRATED WITH THE HELP OF WORLD BANK AND IMF AND USA TREASURY TO BAIL OUT RUSSIA OUT OF BANKRUPTCY. THE RUSSIANS ARE SUCH TYRANT INSTEAD BE THANKFUL TO USA FOR SAVING THEM ,THEY SPIT ON THE FACE OF USA.THE USA GOVERNMENT IS THE MOST GENEROUS GOVERNMENT IN THE WORLD. NAME ME ANOTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT Gives BILLIONS OF US DOLLAR LOANS TO OTHER NATIONS AND THEN FORGIVES THAT LOAN. ZERO, ONLY USA FORGIVES THE LOANS.SO LETS STOP SAYING USA IS BAD.USA OF AMERICA IS A PIOUS NATION. A PIOUS HEGEMONY NOT A TYRANT UNLIKE OTHER NATIONS.HELLO RUSSIA GOODBYE NATOTHE AMERICANS ARE COMINGHELLO USAGOODBYE IRAN.
AfA • August 28th, 2008 at 2:09 am
ahhh, what to say BEN. Since Professor do not object your continuous BS, you became the reason of visiting this board after midnight. Looking for a laughter.Now America is God’s Kingdom, the promised land, the sacred heaven on earth, home to the only originally pure and human(e) species battling darkness around it and delivering the mankind from their sins – themselves – the enlightened parish whose patriarchs were chosen by the providence to punish and perish those who do not surrender to its divine authority; the demons of death bear the sabers in her left hand with which she reaps the lives of those who defy her supremacy and with a shake of her right hand, angels distribute wealth and health among those who obeyed the orders bowing down on her feet!?Through your consistent BS – sorry PR – you put the MSM to shame. For whom do you work?
dhukka • August 28th, 2008 at 3:16 am
Dr Roubini,In light of yesterday’s surprising durable goods orders number, will you be revising your 3Q08 GDP forecast?
Guest • August 28th, 2008 at 5:56 am
EU leaders are considering sanctions “and many other means” on Russia over the crisis in Georgia, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner has said.He gave no further details but added “this will be solved by negotiation”.Moscow’s military offensive in Georgia and its recognition of independence for Georgia’s breakaway enclaves has been condemned by the West.But Russia’s president says he has the support of China and four central Asian states for its actions in Georgia.Speaking at a summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), Russian President Dmitri Medvedev said the grouping’s united position would have “international resonance”.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7585580.stm
P1AQL • August 28th, 2008 at 6:18 am
@SWK aka kilgores on 2008-08-27 22:32:07Hmm. Competitive devaluation, then a Historic Piece of Paper. Have we not seen this before?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MunichAgreement_.jpghttp://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/1010/42/369748.htmAnd from Yes Prime Minister …Jim Hacker: We should always fight for the weak against the strong.Sir Humphrey: Well, why don’t we send troops to Afghanistan to fight the Russians?Jim Hacker: The Russians are too strong.http://www.tv.com/yes-prime-minister/a-victory-for-democracy/episode/156003/summary.htmlWe seem to be going according to script. US prints, China devalues. Europe takes the high (interest) road and falls off the cliff (once again).Enjoy the ride!P1AQL.
P1AQL • August 28th, 2008 at 6:26 am
About:
“The conventions are aimed at the average voter,” he said Aug. 25 in Denver. “You don’t go into Quinlan’s bar and ask them what to do about the” Securities and Exchange Commission.
From Yes Minister …(Sorry! couldn’t resist!)
All the press, the people and their leaders wantto know is who are the goodies and baddies.The interests of Britain nearly always involvedoing deals with people they think are baddies.
kilgores • August 28th, 2008 at 7:13 am
@ Anonymous on 2008-08-28 00:49:41>Don’t you think it would be stupid for Russia, having their citizens in Tskhinvalli murdered and having won the ensuing short war, to take nothing for their trouble, to give back everything?>Life doesn’t work that way.One object of the international legal regime is to establish collective rules among sovereign states to prevent wars and violent conflicts between them, and militate against a “might makes right” world order. Russia’s military intervention in Georgia is in clear violation of international law respecting the use of force, and calls for an appropriate and effective response by the international community (and I don’t mean a rush to war).The presence of any substantial number of Russian nationals in Tskhinvali and elsewhere in South Ossetia was the product of the Russia government issuing Russian passports to residents there as part of a cynical plan to illegally annex sovereign Georgian territory. The recognition by the Russian government of these breakaway Georgian provinces is merely in furtherance of this plan. Russia should not be permitted to gain from its illegal use of force in Georgia, and its breach of Georgian territorial integrity, without suffering severe consequences and international censure. Russia’s interest in Georgia has less to do with protecting the nominal Russian nationals there than with controlling the oil that flows through Georgia to Western Europe.>I don’t recall that Hitler had a similar excuse for his expansionism — his neighbors didn’t have the colossally stupid “foreign policy” that the US bloc does now — but if he did and reacted by taking territory and not giving it back, then the comparison to Medvedev is apt: both were doing the natural thing.The circumstances surrounding Russia’s designs on Georgia are similar in many respects to those surrounding Nazi Germany’s designs on Czechoslovakia in 1938.>Israel still hasn’t given back land it captured in the Six Day War. It won the war, it keeps the land. This seems like the best parallel to me, to what is happening in areas that were formerly in Georgia.We aren’t talking about Israel; however, Israel’s occupation and annexation of Palestinian lands since the Six Day War — which occurred over 40 years ago — are patently illegal under international law, too. Israel’s actions, as many on this blog have pointed out, have been roundly condemned by the international community for many years.SWK
Medic • August 28th, 2008 at 7:33 am
@ SWK;I won’t debate the legality of Russia’s recent actions with regard to Georgia – you are much more apt there then I. But let me just say this: it would appear that the law is flexible, as it has been bent (if not broken) by actors such as the US and UK and Israel. So where does this leave us? In international relations, it seems that whatever is done by one is quickly followed by a similar action by a rival who will use the previous action as justification. This is why we have lost any previous “leadership” position – we have been the instigators of poor decisions for much of the past 60 years, though it has picked up over the last 8 years and thus have led others down this path of “justified aggression”. The result? We are scorned in much of the world as an aggressive bully and have shown our rivals that ignoring international accords and abandoning diplomacy is the real way to get ahead. Leaders indeed. We have behaved more like the egocentric children we are.
MASHIACH BEN CHANA • August 28th, 2008 at 8:22 am
@AFA BACK IN JUNE WHEN I POSTED THIS BLOOMBERG ARTICLE ALL OF YOU;INCLUDING PROFESSOR RUBINI SCREAMED THIS ARTICLE DOES NOT BELONG TO THIS BLOG. AND YOU ALL LAUGHED. I AM GOING TO POST lt;;THE BLOOMBERG ARTICLE FROM JUNE OF THIS YEAR AGAIN.Russia Risks Armed Clash in Abkhazia to Stop Georgia NATO Bid;By Henry Meyer;June 24 (Bloomberg) — Almost 20 years after the Cold War ended, Russia’s neighbor Georgia has become a new flashpoint for tensions with the West.Russia wants Georgia, its former Soviet possession, to stay out of NATO so badly it is risking armed conflict to support the breakaway region of Abkhazia. In the past two months, Russia has sent almost 1,000 troops into Abkhazia, established direct economic ties with it and downed an unmanned Georgian spy plane. An outbreak of fighting between Georgia, a U.S. ally, and Russia would provoke the worst crisis in East-West ties since the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. It also would undermine Russia as it prepares to host the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, 30 miles from the Abkhaz border. “The risk of the high level of brinkmanship exploding into conflict has gotten higher,” said Andrew Kuchins, an analyst at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, in a phone interview. “Russia has upped the ante. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin see the expansion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization to Georgia and Ukraine as a U.S. bid to usurp Russia’s influence in its backyard. The two leaders also are in conflict with the U.S. over a planned missile shield in former Soviet bloc countries Poland and the Czech Republic, which they see as a threat to Russia’s nuclear capability.`Negative Confrontation’ Moving Georgia “artificially into NATO” would “certainly lead to another spiral of very, very negative confrontation,” Medvedev, 43, told Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, 40, at a meeting in St. Petersburg on June 6. Officials in Georgia, the route for a pipeline carrying Caspian oil to Western European markets, have denounced what they call Russia’s “annexation” of Abkhazia. Georgia is stepping up preparations for an offensive, said the Brussels- based International Crisis Group in a report this month. The most recent confrontation occurred on June 17, when Georgian police detained four Russian soldiers, confiscating what they said were 20 anti-tank missiles. The Russian military said it would respond with force to further “provocations.”Since the U.S. and its European allies in NATO promised Georgia and Ukraine, another former Soviet neighbor, eventual membership at an April summit in Bucharest, Russia has taken a series of military steps that have angered Georgia. Russia deployed 400 troops to Abkhazia on May 31, saying they were needed to rebuild a railway track. In April, Russia bolstered its UN-sanctioned peacekeeping force in Abkhazia with an additional 550 troops equipped with heavy artillery, on top of the 2,000 peacekeepers there already.On April 20, a Russian fighter jet shot down a Georgian unmanned reconnaissance plane over Abkhazia, according to a United Nations investigation.Abkhaz border guard Tengiz Manaka saw the wreckage fall to the ground. The 23-year-old raced to the top of a watchtower on the seafront to keep a lookout for Georgian warplanes. “We thought war was about to break out,” he said. Abkhazia, slightly larger than the U.S. state of Delaware at 3,300 square miles, is a subtropical Black Sea territory dotted with palm trees that was once a favorite playground of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin. Since the territory split from Georgia in 1991, sparking a two-year conflict that killed up to 20,000 people and the exodus of 240,000 Georgian refugees, Russian peacekeepers have been policing an uneasy cease-fire.“The Russians are trying to destabilize Georgia and prevent us from joining NATO,” said Georgia’s State Minister for Euro-Atlantic Integration, Giorgi Baramidze, in an interview in Tbilisi. “We are doing our best to stay as calm as possible, especially now when aggression is continuing. Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Boris Malakhov said in a phone interview that Russian forces stationed in Abkhazia for more than a decade have “succeeded in keeping the peace and avoiding a resumption of hostilities. The U.S., which has trained and equipped Georgia’s military and in 2006 approved almost $300 million in aid over five years, says Russia’s tactics will backfire.“The longer that Russia remains so provocative and that Georgia remains so responsible, we’ll see support for Georgia’s NATO membership will grow,” said U.S. Undersecretary of State Matt Bryza in a phone interview. The official U.S. position on the breakaway conflict calls for restraint on the part of Georgia and negotiations with Abkhazia.Eventual Members Georgia and Ukraine failed to win fast-track NATO membership status in April because of opposition from Germany and France. As a compromise, the Western military alliance agreed that both countries will eventually become members. For its part, Abkhazia is on a war footing, with 30,000 reservists who keep weapons at home and can deploy with hours’ notice in response to any attack.“Our armed forces are on a constant state of alert,” Deputy Defense Minister Gari Kupalba said in an interview in the capital of Sukhumi. Nina Khrushcheva, the great-granddaughter of ex-Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, says she is concerned that Putin and Saakashvili won’t show the same restraint as Khrushchev and President John F. Kennedy did during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. The deployment of Soviet missiles to Cuba brought the U.S. and the Soviet Union to the brink of nuclear war. “Who can promise that it won’t get to the point of the Cuban missile crisis?” said Khrushcheva, a professor of international affairs at the New School in New York. “Both sides are escalating.– With reporting by Helena Bedwell in Tbilisi. Editors: James Hertling, Anne Swardson. To contact the reporter on this story: Henry Meyer in Sukhumi, Georgia, through the Moscow newsroom at Hmeyer4@bloomberg.net. Last Updated: June 23, 2008 16:00 EDT. HELLO RUSSIA GOOD BYE NATO. Written by MASHIACH BEN CHANA
Guest • August 28th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Russia fails to win support of Asian alliance(CNN) — Russia’s hopes of winning international support for its actions in Georgia were dashed Thursday, when China and other Asian nations expressed concern about mounting tensions in the region.The joint declaration from the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, or SCO, which includes China, Russia, Tajikistan, Kyrgystan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan, said the countries hoped any further conflict could be resolved peacefully through dialogue.”The presidents reaffirmed their commitment to the principles of respect for historic and cultural traditions of every country and efforts aimed at preserving the unity of a state and its territorial integrity,” the declaration said, The Associated Press reported.”Placing the emphasis exclusively on the use of force has no prospects and hinders a comprehensive settlement of local conflicts,” AP reported the group as saying.Russia had appealed to the SCO alliance to support its actions in Georgia.Russian President Dmitry Medvedev sought their support at a summit Thursday in the Central Asian nation of Tajikistan.Medvedev told the group support for Russia would serve as a “serious signal for those who are trying to justify the aggression.”Russia is trying to counterbalance mounting pressure from the West over its military action in Georgia and its recognition of two breakaway regions — Abkhazia and South Ossetia.http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/28/russia.georgia.cold.war/index.html
K in TX • August 28th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Good link PeterJB.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/08/26/ccchina126.xmlChina is in a downturn/slow down and there is deflation in housing prices in major Chinese cities. Meanwhile the Chinese banks are required to keep bank reserves in U.S.$ in an apparent attempt to soak up more excess dollars and keep the yuan competitive to help prevent an even further slide in exports to the U.S. Why is it that we aren’t likely to see a global depression again Professor? As the credit bubble continues to deflate housing price deflation certainly seems to be going global.”They are now more worried about growth than overheating, and you are seeing that play out in the currency markets. There has been a remarkable change of view,” said Simon Derrick, exchange rate chief at the Bank of New York Mellon.China’s PMI purchasing managers index fell below 50 for the first time in July, signalling an outright contraction in manufacturing output. Hong Kong’s economy contracted 1.4pc in the second quarter. The Politburo has rushed through special rebates for textile producers now caught in a ferocious downturn.Much of the clothing, footwear and furniture industry has been hit, leading to mass plant closures in the Pearl River Delta.”During the first half of this year, about 67,000 small and medium-sized companies went bankrupt throughout China, leaving more than 20m people out of work,” said the National Development and Reform Commission. “Bankruptcies of textile and spinning companies have numbered more than 10,000. Two thirds are on the brink of bankruptcy.”Last week’s rebound on the Shanghai stock market stalled on fading hopes of a fiscal stimulus package. “It is unrealistic to expect the government to rescue the market,” said Li Ka-shing, chairman of Hutchison. “Speculators should be very cautious now. The worst is not over in the global credit crisis.”Lehman Brothers warns of a risk that a housing slump and the 55pc equity crash since October could combine with a global downturn to set off a “vicious cycle”. House prices have already fallen 18pc in Guangzhou and 9pc in Beijing. Prices are now falling in cities that make up over half China’s population.
kilgores • August 28th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
@ Medic on 2008-08-28 07:33:13Absolutely. Through its unilateral attitude and approach to foreign affairs, the Bush Administration, in particular, has caused unprecedented and incalculable damage to our ability as a country to marshal the support and cooperation of other members of the world community to take actions that comport with important U.S. goals. I am hopeful that the next administration will begin the important process of healing our relations with other states and the extensive harm we have caused to the international legal system.SWK
Gloomy • August 28th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Just a guess, but with tomorrow being FDIC Friday, can you imagine a better time for a major bank shutdown than a 3 day weekend after an obviously fraudulent GDP report pumps up the market?
randy • August 28th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
I am getting soooooooooo tired of this market and the games TPTB are playing to keep it up!Most markets around the world are down >20%….what about the US market……NOT! it’s down about 15% and most of the talking heads have not agreed that we are in a recession yet.what the hell is going on????????????????Denninger over at market-ticker is about to blow a head gasket by all the fraud that is going on and the FED, Treasury, and the SEC are allowing because they don’t want the sheeple to know how deep the SH&t really is!I’m beginning to believe the FED might just be able to pull this thing off. If you can’t beat ‘em join ‘em! I just want to protect what is mine. Sorry for the rant.
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